Sure there's not a lot of bass coming out of these things but they work well enough for human voice (not Barry white) but I think we both agree that a wide dispersal (across all frequencies) is advantageous in larger installations (probably smaller ones too) and to suggest there is not a difference between how widely or narrowly a speaker disperses energy especial higher frequencies isn't entirely correct. Therefore off axis response should be considered . Also cabinet and driver design must surely affect SPL levels in general off axis. Eg. Spherical driver should anyone ever invent one would put all frequencies out in all directions a half sphere (more or less normal speakers) 180 degrees etc. I appreciate your need for full range monitoring I also work as a sound engineer as well and do all my own tech for arts events and also lose clients if results aren't good - got to pay the bills and I am only interested in what actually works . I am curious also about your comment that adat was unreliable - is this your experience in general or just the original ada8000 ? The ada8200 has no reports of unreliability since the.changed PSU. Unless he needs his.computer more than ten metres from adat it puts the cost of 32 channels from around 1500 euros to andiamo and madi around 5000 euros .
On Thursday, 15 October 2015, Jörn Nettingsmeier < netti...@stackingdwarves.net> wrote: > On 10/15/2015 03:59 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: >> >> On 10/15/2015 03:41 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: >>> >>> What can I say Jorn - we have some and they work - not as well as >>> adverstised obviously but strip away the hype they have something thta >>> mor >>> eor less does as described - you'll have to wait a while for those >>> measurements ;) >> >> For now, the low cutoff frequency would be enough. >> >> Mind you, I'm not saying that these things cannot be great creative >> tools. But I'm a sound engineer. I need to deal with the artistic output >> of other people, in such a way that they are not going to ram the >> speakers down my throat because half of the spectrum is missing. I need >> general-purpose speakers, which on a bad day means ten octaves and 110dB >> peak SPL. >> >> We've seen all those outlandish claims of magical waveguides that are >> just fractions of the wavelength in diameter and yet shape the sound so >> wonderfully that a 20Hz beam will travel all the way to the moon (using >> the revolutionary VacuProof™ technology that will finally bring >> cinema-friendly space battles). The problem is, this waveshaping is not >> physically possible. You can make a plane wave, but unless it's a huge >> plane wave with respect to frequency, the edge dispersion will make it >> fall apart. In the end, it's just a point source with a little dent in >> it. I don't even need to wait for measurements. >> >> Even if you consider ultrasonic systems: at some point, the ultrasound >> has to be demodulated (it is actually demodulated _everywhere_ in the >> beam), and then you again have a frequency-dependent radiation pattern. >> So yes, some years in the future maybe we have an ultrasonic projector >> that is actually capable of putting a kick drum right in the middle of >> the room without frying anything in its path. But as soon as the >> baseband sound materializes, it will be (almost) omnidirectional again. >> >> > > Here's an interesting datapoint: > > http://www.ultrasonic-audio.com/images/Acouspade_vs_Audio_Spotlight.png > > Consider the Acouspade, to the right. The polar pattern is truly nice, unless you look at the fact that we are not told what happens below 500 Hz (because very likely, nothing much is happening there), and we take note of the tiny, tiny dotted line that denotes 4 kHz, which is down by around 18 dB on-axis, indicating that in the treble range, not much is happening either. > > This is a wonderful tool if you want to whisper textual information at your visitor. But what you are actually perceiving is your amazing ability to suspend disbelief in the presence of a friendly voice from your own species. > > -- > Jörn Nettingsmeier > Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 > > Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) > Tonmeister VDT > > http://stackingdwarves.net > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- www.augustineleudar.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20151016/1334b35a/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
