Re: Publishing music in ambisonics
This is further to my post asking about online portal to stream and post ambisonic content. Well, i searched a little and found this... Looks like development has stopped but i guess it can be further developed from the code available. I havent used it but from what i see, you can play files from a particular URL. So that helps. if its successful, then all we need is a hosting site to host ambisonic content created by individuals and who knows, it might evolve into a radio channel... https://web.archive.org/web/20070705153625/http://www.ambisonia.com/wiki/index.php/Playback_Software Thanks.... 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Re: Publishing music in ambisonics (Marc Lavall?e) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:03:57 -0500 From: Marc Lavall?e <m...@hacklava.net<mailto:m...@hacklava.net>> To: sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics Message-ID: <68408d2a-0a25-93fe-0bd8-58ea8c6ad...@hacklava.net<mailto:68408d2a-0a25-93fe-0bd8-58ea8c6ad...@hacklava.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Le 2019-01-11 ? 8:58 a.m., Oddity Medium a ?crit?: > We're interested in making a website/app that uses multiple independent > speakers as multichannels. > > Lets say you have two laptops and two phones, so you have four (mono) > speakers you can place around the house in a square or rectangle. > > So to get quadraphonic sound we need an app that coordinates four files > playing across these four devices. > > Any tips on how to go about this? I guess this is for some artistic/collaborative performance. So one of the device (laptop/phone) could be the master, and the others would follow orders. Intercommunication and synchronization between the devices is the key, and the more precise is the sync, the more difficult is the project. Without a better description of the project it's difficult to provide a useful advice, but "WebRTC" could be a good start. Good luck. Marc > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:54 PM Paul Hodges > <pwh-surro...@cassland.org<mailto:pwh-surro...@cassland.org>> > wrote: > >> --On 10 January 2019 22:44 +0100 David Pickett >> <d...@fugato.com<mailto:d...@fugato.com>> wrote: >> >>> I agree. But it seems that the only way I have of making aac mp4 >>> files is to make them 5.1. >> I use Wavelab, but that's expensive. Richard Dobson's MCTools suite pf >> programs would enable one to remove the unneeded channels and set an >> appropriate channel mask. >> >> >>> Which browsers have you tested, Paul? How does one set up a browser >>> to recognise 4.0? >> In Windows: IE, Edge, Firefox, Chrome, Opera. The point is that they >> all use the Windows default audio output, which can be set up to be >> multichannel with a range of layouts - and Windows will do the most >> appropriate mixing to match the channels between the input and the >> available speakers. Once set up it all just works. >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> Paul Hodges >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/b0916531/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit > account or options, view archives and so on. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:29:18 +0000 From: Paul Hodges <pwh-surro...@cassland.org<mailto:pwh-surro...@cassland.org>> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics Message-ID: <78E9FC63FACAAF5348F0D57C@[192.168.1.74]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --On 11 January 2019 14:58 +0100 Oddity Medium <odditymed...@gmail.com<mailto:odditymed...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Lets say you have two laptops and two phones, so you have four (mono) > speakers you can place around the house in a square or rectangle. > > So to get quadraphonic sound we need an app that coordinates four > files playing across these four devices. I cannot imagine that it will be practical to get synchronisation anywhere near what would be required for adequate results. As an illustration, by chance earlier this week I found myself playing a file from the same source (on my network, but via wi-fi) through two devices (an iPhone and an Android tablet), and the audio was about 250ms out of sync - presumably because of the differing buffering built in to these devices and their programs. Paul -- Paul Hodges ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 19:13:06 +0100 From: David Pickett <d...@fugato.com<mailto:d...@fugato.com>> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20190111185730.05aaf...@fugato.com<mailto:6.2.5.6.2.20190111185730.05aaf...@fugato.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed This sounds like a very complicated way of going about things, particularly when one can get four signals from one laptop. You would need a four channel external D/A box -- possibly a Behrigner ADA8200, or similar to do so. Ambisonics, even in one plane, assumes that the channels are at least the same in frequency response and phase. Even with larger speakers in boxes this is not an easy thing to achieve, though a reasonable match between speakers might be achieved if they are all of the same type that they sell for desktops. I bought a pair at the check out in Micro Center for about 8 bucks. No bass, but the cut off is probably the same in each channel! David At 18:29 11-01-19, you wrote: >--On 11 January 2019 14:58 +0100 Oddity Medium ><odditymed...@gmail.com<mailto:odditymed...@gmail.com>> >wrote: > > > Lets say you have two laptops and two phones, so you have four (mono) > > speakers you can place around the house in a square or rectangle. > > > > So to get quadraphonic sound we need an app that coordinates four > > files playing across these four devices. > >I cannot imagine that it will be practical to get synchronisation >anywhere near what would be required for adequate results. > >As an illustration, by chance earlier this week I found myself playing >a file from the same source (on my network, but via wi-fi) through two >devices (an iPhone and an Android tablet), and the audio was about >250ms out of sync - presumably because of the differing buffering built >in to these devices and their programs. > >Paul > >-- >Paul Hodges > >_______________________________________________ >Sursound mailing list >Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> >https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe >here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:43:53 +0000 From: Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com<mailto:augustineleu...@gmail.com>> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics Message-ID: <cabx2jurnyffry7hu6gmkgssqx8yf_bpvdw8btggxm3mvp_c...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:cabx2jurnyffry7hu6gmkgssqx8yf_bpvdw8btggxm3mvp_c...@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Please - just call me Gus ;) At Hyunkooks conference there was someone who had the idea of using phones (I think in tandem)I cant quire remmeber but I "think" it was The Vostok-K Incident ? an immersive audio drama for ad hoc arrays of media devices o If you go to this link and right click it : https://research.hud.ac.uk/institutes-centres/apl/events/wimp18/wimp18programme/ Anyway I cant quite remember but there was something a bit limiting about it (it didnt do surround sound or you couldnt choose the position of the speakers etc) - I just though wouldn't it be great if you could buy a bunch of speakers , dot them around the room and the speakers would tell the media player where they were located (using GPS, or some local wireless positioning system) which channel they were and then the player would decode to that speaker array. One day - eh - it would solve the problem of getting surround sound into the public's homes I reckon. My main interest is an an artist creating content rather than developing technical solutions but Im happy to chat about them. On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:54, Oddity Medium <odditymed...@gmail.com<mailto:odditymed...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Dr Leudar, was your email directed at me? Re: "exactly the same idea"? > If so, I'd like to discuss it more with you. > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 5:44 PM Augustine Leudar < > augustineleu...@gmail.com<mailto:augustineleu...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > Had exactly the same idea - there were some people at Hynunkooks > conference > > (WIMP) last year doing something similar. > > > > < > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > Virus-free. > > www.avast.com > > < > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:59, Oddity Medium > > <odditymed...@gmail.com<mailto:odditymed...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > We're interested in making a website/app that uses multiple independent > > > speakers as multichannels. > > > > > > Lets say you have two laptops and two phones, so you have four (mono) > > > speakers you can place around the house in a square or rectangle. > > > > > > So to get quadraphonic sound we need an app that coordinates four files > > > playing across these four devices. > > > > > > Any tips on how to go about this? > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:54 PM Paul Hodges > > > <pwh-surro...@cassland.org<mailto:pwh-surro...@cassland.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --On 10 January 2019 22:44 +0100 David Pickett > > > > <d...@fugato.com<mailto:d...@fugato.com>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I agree. But it seems that the only way I have of making aac mp4 > > > > > files is to make them 5.1. > > > > > > > > I use Wavelab, but that's expensive. Richard Dobson's MCTools suite > pf > > > > programs would enable one to remove the unneeded channels and set an > > > > appropriate channel mask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which browsers have you tested, Paul? How does one set up a browser > > > > > to recognise 4.0? > > > > > > > > In Windows: IE, Edge, Firefox, Chrome, Opera. The point is that they > > > > all use the Windows default audio output, which can be set up to be > > > > multichannel with a range of layouts - and Windows will do the most > > > > appropriate mixing to match the channels between the input and the > > > > available speakers. Once set up it all just works. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Hodges > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Sursound mailing list > > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > > here, > > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/b0916531/attachment.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sursound mailing list > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > Company Number : NI635217 > > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > > Belfast BT88LL > > www.magikdoor.net > > +44(0)7555784775 > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/7e8e4fd7/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/cf84f539/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/4871d201/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:46:40 +0000 From: Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com<mailto:augustineleu...@gmail.com>> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics Message-ID: <cabx2juosnculxqj5cayc0v7dyjzsc1hlefwz9r_aeogbxq_...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:cabx2juosnculxqj5cayc0v7dyjzsc1hlefwz9r_aeogbxq_...@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" and yes you could do that with different devices - but I just cant see the public putting a laptop on the mantlepiece - and iphone on the windowsill etc - I reckon the more commercially viable options is a bespoke set of speakers. Make it so no 1. On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 18:43, Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com<mailto:augustineleu...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Please - just call me Gus ;) > At Hyunkooks conference there was someone who had the idea of using phones > (I think in tandem)I cant quire remmeber but I "think" it was The > Vostok-K Incident ? an immersive audio drama for ad hoc arrays of media > devices > o If you go to this link and right click it : > > > https://research.hud.ac.uk/institutes-centres/apl/events/wimp18/wimp18programme/ > > Anyway I cant quite remember but there was something a bit limiting about > it (it didnt do surround sound or you couldnt choose the position of the > speakers etc) - I just though wouldn't it be great if you could buy a > bunch of speakers , dot them around the room and the speakers would tell > the media player where they were located (using GPS, or some local wireless > positioning system) which channel they were and then the player would > decode to that speaker array. One day - eh - it would solve the problem of > getting surround sound into the public's homes I reckon. My main interest > is an an artist creating content rather than developing technical > solutions but Im happy to chat about them. > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:54, Oddity Medium > <odditymed...@gmail.com<mailto:odditymed...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> Dr Leudar, was your email directed at me? Re: "exactly the same idea"? >> If so, I'd like to discuss it more with you. >> >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 5:44 PM Augustine Leudar < >> augustineleu...@gmail.com<mailto:augustineleu...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> > Had exactly the same idea - there were some people at Hynunkooks >> conference >> > (WIMP) last year doing something similar. >> > >> > < >> > >> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >> > > >> > Virus-free. >> > www.avast.com >> > < >> > >> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >> > > >> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> > >> > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:59, Oddity Medium >> > <odditymed...@gmail.com<mailto:odditymed...@gmail.com>> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > We're interested in making a website/app that uses multiple >> independent >> > > speakers as multichannels. >> > > >> > > Lets say you have two laptops and two phones, so you have four (mono) >> > > speakers you can place around the house in a square or rectangle. >> > > >> > > So to get quadraphonic sound we need an app that coordinates four >> files >> > > playing across these four devices. >> > > >> > > Any tips on how to go about this? >> > > >> > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:54 PM Paul Hodges < >> pwh-surro...@cassland.org<mailto:pwh-surro...@cassland.org>> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > --On 10 January 2019 22:44 +0100 David Pickett >> > > > <d...@fugato.com<mailto:d...@fugato.com>> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > I agree. But it seems that the only way I have of making aac mp4 >> > > > > files is to make them 5.1. >> > > > >> > > > I use Wavelab, but that's expensive. Richard Dobson's MCTools suite >> pf >> > > > programs would enable one to remove the unneeded channels and set an >> > > > appropriate channel mask. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Which browsers have you tested, Paul? How does one set up a >> browser >> > > > > to recognise 4.0? >> > > > >> > > > In Windows: IE, Edge, Firefox, Chrome, Opera. The point is that >> they >> > > > all use the Windows default audio output, which can be set up to be >> > > > multichannel with a range of layouts - and Windows will do the most >> > > > appropriate mixing to match the channels between the input and the >> > > > available speakers. Once set up it all just works. >> > > > >> > > > Paul >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Paul Hodges >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Sursound mailing list >> > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> >> > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe >> > here, >> > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > > > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- >> > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> > > URL: < >> > > >> > >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/b0916531/attachment.html >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Sursound mailing list >> > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> >> > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe >> here, >> > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Augustine Leudar >> > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD >> > Company Number : NI635217 >> > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, >> > Belfast BT88LL >> > www.magikdoor.net >> > +44(0)7555784775 >> > -------------- next part -------------- >> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> > URL: < >> > >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/7e8e4fd7/attachment.html >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sursound mailing list >> > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> >> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >> > edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/cf84f539/attachment.html >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > > > -- > Dr. Augustine Leudar > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > Company Number : NI635217 > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > Belfast BT88LL > www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/c26b728f/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:47:53 +0000 From: Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com<mailto:boardroomout...@gmail.com>> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics Message-ID: <CABcO3VKt6m_OBXTc=uokg2xp0mf8m8jgbbj1aujbyme3t7q...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:uokg2xp0mf8m8jgbbj1aujbyme3t7q...@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Media Device Orchestration? If so here's a paper i read a while ago... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://epubs.surrey.ac.uk/841961/1/2017-08%2520Francombe%2520AudioMostly.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj0v4Xzr-bfAhUfIDQIHTxADnAQFjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1yCbn-9qrgAiho8Dd1u4vt On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 18:44 Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com<mailto:augustineleu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please - just call me Gus ;) > At Hyunkooks conference there was someone who had the idea of using phones > (I think in tandem)I cant quire remmeber but I "think" it was The Vostok-K > Incident ? an immersive audio drama for ad hoc arrays of media devices > o If you go to this link and right click it : > > > https://research.hud.ac.uk/institutes-centres/apl/events/wimp18/wimp18programme/ > > Anyway I cant quite remember but there was something a bit limiting about > it (it didnt do surround sound or you couldnt choose the position of the > speakers etc) - I just though wouldn't it be great if you could buy a > bunch of speakers , dot them around the room and the speakers would tell > the media player where they were located (using GPS, or some local wireless > positioning system) which channel they were and then the player would > decode to that speaker array. One day - eh - it would solve the problem of > getting surround sound into the public's homes I reckon. My main interest > is an an artist creating content rather than developing technical > solutions but Im happy to chat about them. > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:54, Oddity Medium > <odditymed...@gmail.com<mailto:odditymed...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > Dr Leudar, was your email directed at me? Re: "exactly the same idea"? > > If so, I'd like to discuss it more with you. > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 5:44 PM Augustine Leudar < > > augustineleu...@gmail.com<mailto:augustineleu...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > Had exactly the same idea - there were some people at Hynunkooks > > conference > > > (WIMP) last year doing something similar. > > > > > > < > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > > > Virus-free. > > > www.avast.com > > > < > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:59, Oddity Medium > > > <odditymed...@gmail.com<mailto:odditymed...@gmail.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > We're interested in making a website/app that uses multiple > independent > > > > speakers as multichannels. > > > > > > > > Lets say you have two laptops and two phones, so you have four (mono) > > > > speakers you can place around the house in a square or rectangle. > > > > > > > > So to get quadraphonic sound we need an app that coordinates four > files > > > > playing across these four devices. > > > > > > > > Any tips on how to go about this? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:54 PM Paul Hodges < > pwh-surro...@cassland.org<mailto:pwh-surro...@cassland.org> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --On 10 January 2019 22:44 +0100 David Pickett > > > > > <d...@fugato.com<mailto:d...@fugato.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. But it seems that the only way I have of making aac mp4 > > > > > > files is to make them 5.1. > > > > > > > > > > I use Wavelab, but that's expensive. Richard Dobson's MCTools suite > > pf > > > > > programs would enable one to remove the unneeded channels and set > an > > > > > appropriate channel mask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which browsers have you tested, Paul? How does one set up a > browser > > > > > > to recognise 4.0? > > > > > > > > > > In Windows: IE, Edge, Firefox, Chrome, Opera. The point is that > they > > > > > all use the Windows default audio output, which can be set up to be > > > > > multichannel with a range of layouts - and Windows will do the most > > > > > appropriate mixing to match the channels between the input and the > > > > > available speakers. Once set up it all just works. > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Paul Hodges > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Sursound mailing list > > > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > > > here, > > > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > URL: < > > > > > > > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/b0916531/attachment.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Sursound mailing list > > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > > here, > > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > > Company Number : NI635217 > > > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > > > Belfast BT88LL > > > www.magikdoor.net > > > +44(0)7555784775 > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/7e8e4fd7/attachment.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sursound mailing list > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/cf84f539/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > -- > Dr. Augustine Leudar > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > Company Number : NI635217 > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > Belfast BT88LL > www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/4871d201/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/d371f795/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:18:21 -0500 From: Jeanine Cowen <jco...@berklee.edu<mailto:jco...@berklee.edu>> To: sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics Message-ID: <8bd3d3fe-4c37-4588-bcde-19f44282b...@berklee.edu<mailto:8bd3d3fe-4c37-4588-bcde-19f44282b...@berklee.edu>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Another web-based player caught my eye the other day. Using WebVR it is compatible with the stated browsers fo that protocol and also provides for rotating in the image. http://labs.plan8.se/ambisonics-webplayer/ <http://labs.plan8.se/ambisonics-webplayer/> Given that it is based on Omnitone it should be relatively straightforward to adapt for a personal website. JC Jeanine Cowen Professor, Film Scoring Berklee College of Music jco...@berklee.edu<mailto:jco...@berklee.edu> <mailto:jco...@berklee.edu<mailto:jco...@berklee.edu>> 617-747-8675 office 617-332-2970 cell http://www.berklee.edu <http://www.berklee.edu/> > On Jan 10, 2019, at 12:00 PM, > sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 15:57:19 +0000 > From: aswath Prabhu <aswath...@hotmail.com<mailto:aswath...@hotmail.com> > <mailto:aswath...@hotmail.com<mailto:aswath...@hotmail.com>>> > To: "sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu> > <mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu>>" > <sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu> > <mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu>>> > Subject: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics > Message-ID: > > <sn6pr04mb4445eabdc18ef13eae95c415e0...@sn6pr04mb4445.namprd04.prod.outlook.com<mailto:sn6pr04mb4445eabdc18ef13eae95c415e0...@sn6pr04mb4445.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> > > <mailto:sn6pr04mb4445eabdc18ef13eae95c415e0...@sn6pr04mb4445.namprd04.prod.outlook.com<mailto:sn6pr04mb4445eabdc18ef13eae95c415e0...@sn6pr04mb4445.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Good day to you all, > > I would like to know as to how to publish the audio that you make in > ambisonics on the web. > > If i have a stereo file, its easy to upload to Soundcloud, Bandcamp etc. But > am not really sure if there is any online player or player to embed in a > website that can play B format WAV files. > > I guess for videos its only Youtube 360 or facebook. I mean, can i have > surround sound audio in a video and upload it on any of the video sites like > vimeo, dailymotion, youtube etc. when i mean surround, I mean using > ambisonics!! > > Please advice. > > Thank you > > Aswath Prabhu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190111/26e93d25/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 20:37:19 -0500 From: Marc Lavall?e <m...@hacklava.net<mailto:m...@hacklava.net>> To: sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Publishing music in ambisonics Message-ID: <7b731c49-edca-4f76-adc4-ce91af559...@hacklava.net<mailto:7b731c49-edca-4f76-adc4-ce91af559...@hacklava.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Back then (4 years ago) I made a script to create compressed version of ambisonics files from source .amb files. It was rendering m4a and opus files with any numbers of channels (like 3 channels for horizontal-only FOA). It was using the channelx and interlx utils from the MCTools suite to extract and reassemble channels in intermediate files. Final m4a files were compressed using the fdkaac tool from Fraunhofer. So only libre/open tools were used, on Linux (the same should be possible on OSX and Windows). Marc Le 2019-01-11 ? 8:53 a.m., Paul Hodges a ?crit?: > --On 10 January 2019 22:44 +0100 David Pickett > <d...@fugato.com<mailto:d...@fugato.com>> wrote: > >> I agree. But it seems that the only way I have of making aac mp4 >> files is to make them 5.1. > I use Wavelab, but that's expensive. Richard Dobson's MCTools suite pf > programs would enable one to remove the unneeded channels and set an > appropriate channel mask. > > >> Which browsers have you tested, Paul? How does one set up a browser >> to recognise 4.0? > In Windows: IE, Edge, Firefox, Chrome, Opera. The point is that they > all use the Windows default audio output, which can be set up to be > multichannel with a range of layouts - and Windows will do the most > appropriate mixing to match the channels between the input and the > available speakers. Once set up it all just works. > > Paul > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound WHEN REPLYING EDIT THE SUBJECT LINE ALSO EDIT THE MESSAGE BODY ------------------------------ End of Sursound Digest, Vol 126, Issue 7 **************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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