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Gary, There is always a great reluctance by govts to change things that affect their revenue base and there has also been a worldwide trend for the last 20 years towards User Pays which in most cases is a fairer and more equitable distribution of the worlds wealth and a countrys wealth. . This in many cases means the removal of govt subsidies, something that in the past a number of largescale multi national industries have grown fat on. Initially while these subsidies are in place it is believed they are necessary and there is quite often a lot of persuasion to convince the general public they are necessary. eg. In the case of NZ most of our overseas earnings originally came from agricultural production and for a while in the 60s and 70s it was easy for the govt to subsidise those industries. With the opening of the country to true free trade from 1984 onwards and the removal of subsidies farmers were forced to become more efficient and competitive or go to the wall. The result today is that NZ farmers are some of most efficient in the world. Sure we know the Americans and the European Common Market still have a lot of barriers and lobbies in place but we work towards dismantling some of these and gradually developing a fairer system. While it would be easy to go back to the old system if we listen to the pesimists in reality most of us know that the only way to see a fairer system put in place is to lead by example rather than pontificating about the injustice of the existing system. I suggest if you are serious about the implementation and use of more natural fuels that you finish your certificate while at the same time continuing to learn about and experiment with the manufacture and use of these more natural fuels. At the end you will then have a qualification and some practical experience that will stand you in good stead if you want to go on and begin manufacture or whatever on a larger scale. At this stage there are a number of technologies available and no-one knows which technologies will win out but you can bet your bottom dollar that whatever path you follow at present that the knowledge gained there will be of benefit sometime in your life either directly or indirectly. The manufacture of ethanol may be denied to you at this point in time for a little longer so you can either do it illegally or start with biodiesel at this point. I dont think this will last forever though. There are already something like 55 plants manufacturing ethanol in the States with the largest producing over 100,000,000 gallons p.a. and the smaller ones producing 10,000,000 gallons p.a. All up something like 18 billion gallons last year. All of this really started in the late 70s and early 80s following the Opec oil price increases (although the simple technology had been around longer) so the industry hasnt done too bad in just over 20 years. As I said the easiest way to demonstrate and to convince people you are serious is to lead by example. I suggest you start by making biodiesel and running yours or a friends old diesel car on it. The kids in Perth and elsewhere arent going to remember or want to know that ADM in the States makes well over 100,000,000 gallons of ethanol a year but they sure as hell wont forget the first car they saw that ran on biodiesel and the guy that was promoting the idea. If you think the idea is good and needs to be listened to at some point you need to stand up and be counted. Good luck with your efforts. PS. If you run a friends old car on biodiesel make sure you have it right because if you stuff his car he aint going to forget you either. Why not involve one of your friends on the same course who thinks like you and I am sure you will progress quite fast. As they same two heads think better than one. B.r., David Reid -----Original Message----- From: Gary Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@egroups.com <biofuel@egroups.com> Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 1:14 PM Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol >I live in Wstern Australia and have read with a great deal of >interest your information on Ethanol and Biodiesel. I am at present >doing a certificate in renewable energy and found myself drawn to a >desire to investigate the possibility of producing Ethanol here in >Australia. Well, after a great deal of research and contacting people >I have almost come to dead end. It seems to me that the Australian >Govt is not really keen on producing an alternative to fossil fuel >due mainly to the fact that they earn over fifty percent of each >litre of fossil fuel sold in revenue. It would seem that it is >impossible to get a licence for individual construction of a still >and very difficult to get a commercial licence. However, I am not >finished yet and have written to the Minister for the Environment >here in WA with relavent details and my concerns.(It also seems, that >if you could get a licence to produce ethanol, they would tax it at a >rate of A$39/200% proof litre produced + GST !!!) >Anyway, I hope I haven't bored you with this little story but I just >wanted to update you with our plight here in Australia and please >keep up the good work on your site - the world needs people like you. > >All the best > >Gary Holton. > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]