If you invest in an electronic meter you could have used that money to buy almost 400 gallons of regular diesel(G) Well at least the ones I looked at once.. With methanol prices what they are it cost me nearly $1.30 a gallon just to make this stuff. 400 gallons is allot.. have you managed to automate this process at all? Also what kind of oil are you using? My brother got me some stuff once from taco bell. That stuff always made glumpy jelly like mess. but the stuff he has gotten me from Albertsons works great. I have about 60 gallons that I need to start processing. I have to find my numbers I used for 10 gallon batches..(G).
---Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@egroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Interesting site...biodiesel must be a good investment! > about 400 gallons this year. been using litmus paper, but i really should > invest in an electronic meter. > > -- > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, > we borrow it from our children. > -- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Fullerton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@egroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Interesting site...biodiesel must be a good > investment! > > > > How much of it have you made? I just made a bit under a liter out of > > shortening because I wanted the can it was in for my stove experiments. > > (G).. I have made a few tankfulls for my van but I have had to guess more > > then I would like due to the fact that I can't seem to find a reliable > > (inexpensive) way to measure the pH of oil... soil monitors do not work. ... > > > > ---Bryan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@egroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 6:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Interesting site...biodiesel must be a good > > investment! > > > > > > > any questions you have about biodiesel should be answered by > > > http://www.webconx.com/ > > > > > > if not, just ask me, i'll be happy to answer. > > > -- > > > Steve Spence > > > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > > > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > > > > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com > > > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm > > > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax > > > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, > > > we borrow it from our children. > > > -- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <biofuel@egroups.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 3:13 PM > > > Subject: [biofuel] Interesting site...biodiesel must be a good > investment! > > > > > > > > > > I've put both stoves, the Backpack stove and the > > > > > Hobo stove, on our website, linked from here: > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/edu.html#stove > > > > > > > > This is neat, I never knew this could be done. Has anyone seen the > > > > VW bus on Ripley's Believe it or not? Said the guys used veggie oil > > > > to power it. It showed how they did extensive modifications to the > > > > stock gasoline engine, but I am guessing this was to convert it to > > > > diesel cycle to run the veggie oil as biodiesel. Also showed them > > > > scurryin' round to get the oil, and how they converted it, but the > > > > conversion explanation was too brief to understand. > > > > > > > > I am actually going to try this...following the intructions exact. > > > > What happens if the solution of sodium methoxide is not stirred? > > > > > > > > On with the O3 stuff. It remains fact that humans cannot breathe > > > > much ozone or their lungs will turn into jelly, from the oxidation. > > > > The same could be true when talking about diesel fuel. Even if it > > > > oxidizes it on contact with out heat, it is still valid because the > > > > diesel is injected after top dead center, so the diesel cycle is > > > > enhanced! Since O3 takes up less space (speaking of volumetric air > > > > intake) than O2, more air can be used thus reducing diesel > > > > consumption. Less soot too. > > > > > > > > However I do not know what we should do about the sulphur in the > > > > petrodiesel fuels. > > > > > > > > It's easy to build an O3 converter...use two or more automotive coils > > > > connected to a signal generator through an amplifier. Input voltage > > > > into the coils is 12VAC, and output is around 100 000 VAC, converted > > > > to full wave DC with a bridge rectifier. This intense voltage and > > > > fequency is fed into a nichrome mesh grid in the intake plenum. > > > > Layers can be used for a more effective ionization of the air. The > > > > layers would alternate, one positive from the coils and the next > > > > negative grounded to the car, pos., neg., and so on. Spacing, > > > > ideally, would be half the maximum length of the arc..eg, if the arc > > > > is 1" max, then space mesh layers 1/2" apart. Logical stuff. > > > > > > > > Putting one of these same setups in the exhaust would capacitate a > > > > near zero-emission diesel engine, as the plasme would eliminate > > > > hydrocarbons and soot with air injection on the side. > > > > > > > > Any feedback on this? Please do speak... > > > > > > > > JI > > > > > > > > > > Did you have a look at the Kelly Kettle, by the way? > > > > > http://www.y2k-millennium-supplies.co.uk/wood_burn/index.html > > > > > > > > > > >Yes it was his Stove. Man is his drawing hard to follow. I did > > > > learn > > > > > >something from his drawing though.. He preheats the intake air. > > > > Air goes > > > > > >down between two hot cans(at least one really hot can) where it is > > > > > >preheated. This way it is already hot when it hits the wood. Made > > > > a big > > > > > >difference for me. Now if I can just get that gas air mixture > > > > thing right.. > > > > > >Seems like it needs more air then I can get to it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---Bryan > > > > > > > > > > I also liked his two hot cans scheme - that bit at least is clear! > > > > > Haven't tried it yet though. > > > > > > > > > > Tom Reed says this: "Natural convection is a great free blessing - > > > > > but doesn't cut it in cooking. If you want to burn efficiently, > > > > burn > > > > > intensely for more rapid heating (and thus fuel saving), burn > > > > > cleanly, you need forced convection." His Turbo stove has a powered > > > > > fan. "You should see the little blue jets that a pressure of 0.1 > > > > inch > > > > > water column generates!" > > > > > > > > > > Keith Addison > > > > > Journey to Forever > > > > > Handmade Projects > > > > > Tokyo > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Backpack stove > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's how to make a camping stove for your backpack that > > > > weighs just > > > > > > > about nothing and takes up hardly any space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These little stoves are great -- they're fun to make and it only > > > > > > > takes a few minutes. Not just a toy -- they really work! They > > > > put out > > > > > > > a hot ring of blue flame like a gas stove and hold enough fuel > > > > for > > > > > > > about 15 minutes -- so if you're cooking something that takes > > > > longer > > > > > > > than that, better make two so you can alternate them to keep up > > > > the > > > > > > > heat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All you need is a couple of aluminium soft-drink cans, some > > > > perlite, > > > > > > > a wire coat-hanger and a bottle of denatured alcohol (spirits, > > > > > > > usually dyed purple). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inventor: "Unknown". Construction directions by LaMar Kirby: > > > > > > > http://www.uvol.com/scouts/stove/stove.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See also: > > > > > > > The Hobo Stove > > > > > > > http://forums.cosmoaccess.net/forum/survival/prep/hobostv.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > eGroups Sponsor > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> Tellme Sports. 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