There are piles of these containers, used, in Newark NJ. You have to see it to believe it. 10 acres all stacked together, piled 10 at least.
Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "dhargis1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Mobile BD plant > Hi Marc, > > Yes, you're probably right. That was one of the reasons that I mentioned > thinking to restrict myself to designing within only 20 foot containers. > Then, I think a lot of the interior of the container is going to be empty > space surrounding the machinery. I had hoped to move them with a large > forklift, and would have to know the capacity of the forklift and to keep > the total weight of the container with its stuff within that weight. The > fiberglass and aluminum containers I believe would be lighter than the steel > ones, allowing for more weight to be added to the container. The last time I > checked on prices the 40 foot containers were around USD 2000 on the second > hand market. I don't know how that would compare with the old semi-trailers > in cost? The empty containers are often picked up with a winch and a tilt > bed and slid on and off of the trailer on to the ground. As you say, that > isn't really an option with a loaded one. > > Thanks for the feedback, > > Derek W. Hargis > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:27 PM > Subject: [biofuel] Mobile BD plant > > > > Derek Hargis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "I have been considering ways to commercially produce biodiesel in > > India. My > > own thoughts have been along the lines of cargo containers. I want to > > get > > everything operational in 8 x 8 x 20 foot containers. They could be > > hauled > > about, set-up on site, etc. They don't need foundations." > > > > I love containers - in fact the 40-foot hi-cube I bought in the States > > to carry my household goods to the Philippines is still my main storage > > facility. > > > > Unfortunately, they have a big weakness, namely that you can't pick them > > up or drop them on-site without a crane. There are tricks for picking up > > an empty container without a crane, but they won't work at all with a > > loaded one, and put quite a lot of wear on even an empty one. With my > > 40-footer only loaded to about half its full capacity, I still had to > > pay a day's rent on a boom crane and watch in agony while they took five > > lifts to move the container from the trailer to my pad. > > > > At least in the USA, used semi-trailers with axles, brakes and all are > > cheaper than the equivalent cargo container and are easy to recondition. > > You just detach the tractor (the expensive part) and send it on its > > revenue-making way while working at a given site. > > > > Marc de Piolenc > > Iligan, Philippines > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
