Sam, I sometimes think this is why some of these things work. Because people want them to work they work. The easiest way to obtain high mpg is to keep your foot off the gas pedal. This works everytime in my experience. For trials to be comparable all the variables have to remain constant and when you come to motor vehicles they invariably are not. Forgive me if I am cynical but unless you can totally convince me that long hydrocarbon chains are being broken down to shorter chains and better vaporisation is occurring as a result of the magnetic field I remain totally sceptical. I admit I have done very little research on this aspect. Years ago I spent 5 months travelling the length and breadth of India seeing quite a lot of things I could not understand. As I have grown older I have learnt or understand how most of them were done. There are a number of things I still cant explain but because I cant explain them dosnt make them magic. Ninety nine % of the time there is a logical explantion. Forgive me if I am still critical. B.r., David
----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: magnetic savings / alky + dyno / hard water / <snipping > I use fuel line magnets myself, the rare earth variety out of the PC hard drives, and I get a steady mileage increase of 4-5 mpg. I firmly believe in them myself. Not everyone who has tried them gets good results right off the bat. The trick is to move them around until you find a sweet spot and keep them there. Do not just slap them on, find you get no gain and say that they will not work. Sometimes it takes a few tries at postitioning to get it right. Work with it some before you give up on them. Also, they are only effective on rubber lines as far as the research that I'm privy to goes. No effect on steel lines whatsoever. Someone I know is experimenting on an electromagnetic field on gas lines further enhancing the desired effect. Tin and tin alloys are also great to experiment with as a catalyser for breaking down the long chain hydrocarbons which is what you are trying to do with the magnetic fields. If you want ultra high mileage gains, then there is no substitute for TCC or Thermal Catalytic Cracking of the fuel (as long as your dealing with hydrocarbons that is). This is basically the same procedure used to create our fossil based fuels from crude oils. Fact is, there are some really nasty low end products even in the best gasoline that prevent catalysts from working well before combustion where it can do you the most good as far as efficiency and mileage is concerned. In gasoline there is 10% of the so-called "additives" which are not additives at all but stuff that is not taken OUT of the process and that is what kills mileage. Remember, the worlds record for specialty marathon high mileage vehicles is well over 9,000 mpg. Why is it that every time that the EPA raises the level of ratings for mpg, the car companies are so quick to comply? Why didn't they produce them sooner? They are not years away from getting the product in question to the market. Makes you wonder, eh? It happens as soon as the upper limits are raised. Is this a trade off? The EPA says, OK you are making a SUV that gets only 12-15 mpg, so now you have to produce a vehicle that gets 50-60-70? Maybe I'm wrong, I have been once, :-) but the conspiracy theories about high mileage abound in the circles that I'm in. I'm in the process of being hacked, possibly to find out what I know about all this and I'm being mail bombed on a daily basis as a harrassment ploy. I'm not paranoid at all. I just know what's out there and what's being done to curtail these new/old technologies. Vested intrests regarding these matters are VERY powerfull. MooNShiNeR Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/