Ken, If you can't get it from the URL given by Keith e.g. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bio-oil/files/BIOFUELpaper4.doc please give nme your email address and I'll send it to you because we can't do this through the mailing list.
Hann -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2001 1:12 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Coco-diesel - Engine repair claims turned down Dear Hanns, I am interested in coconut oil as a base for bio diesel. Pls. send me a copy of the report you mentioned. Thanks and Best Regards Ken Chua At 05:29 PM 5/29/01 +1000, you wrote: >High quality coconut oil has been tested at the University of Wollongong >(Australia) in recent years which apparently reached the conclusion that >diesel engines used in generators, marine engines and vehicles can run on >such coconut oil. At these tests, the oil has demonstrated excellent >credentials for use as a replacement fuel for diesel in compression ignition >engines and the tests have shown it to equal or exceed the specifications of >petro diesel in all respects at temperatures above 35 degrees Celsius. > >I have a paper on the subject if you are interested. > >Probably the 70/30 mixture in Thailand contained unrefined oil straight from >the copra mill. This is pretty filthy stuff and I am not surprised it messed >up the engine. > >Hanns > >-----Original Message----- >From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2001 4:56 PM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [biofuel] Coco-diesel - Engine repair claims turned down > > >I've been expecting something like this. I've had doubts that this >SVO mixture that's being misnamed "biodiesel" would escape the need >for a dual-fuel system. This could do a lot of harm. Not cleaning the >filters either. Mess. :-( > >Keith Addison >Journey to Forever >Handmade Projects >Tokyo >http://journeytoforever.org/ > > > > >Engine repair claims turned down > >Bangkok Post 28 May 2001 >Carmakers, insurers want fuel regulated >Walailak Keeratipipatpong >Santan Santivimolnat > >Motorists keen to use biodiesel as fuel are thinking twice as >carmakers and insurance companies are refusing to take responsibility >for engine damage. > >Repair guarantees and insurance will not cover the damage until >specifications of alternative fuels are set by regulators, the >companies say. > >A Nakhon Pathom motorist, Praphan Morakotchinda, 26, is a test case. >The employee of a private company filled the tank of his Ford Ranger >pickup with 16 litres of biodiesel, which cost him 200 baht from a >filling station in Sampran district. > >When he turned on the ignition, the engine started working but the >car did not move. He added more diesel oil to the tank, but to no >avail. > >A technician inspected the engine and told him to replace the filter, >which was full of dirt and grease. However, the pickup would not >budge until all the fuel had been pumped out and replaced by >undiluted diesel oil. > >The owner of the service station told Mr Praphan that he had bought >the biodiesel from Samut Sakhon. The mixture contained 30% diesel oil >and 70% coconut oil. > >As the pickup was still covered by a sales warranty, Mr Praphan asked >whether his car dealer would replace the filter at no charge. The >dealer refused. As well, Mr Praphan's insurance company declined to >pay the cost of replacing the filter. > >Insurance industry spokesmen say they are worried there will be a >rash of claims resulting from the increasing use of many types of >blended fuels, none of which are covered by regulations. > >Nopadol Santipakorn, vice-chairman of the auto insurance group of the >General Insurance Association, said engine damage caused by the use >of non-regulated petroleum products would not be covered by insurance. > >"Insurance covers damage to the bodywork and engine in an accident, >not the use of fuels other than those specified in the driver's >manual." > >If a motorist wanted additional coverage for alternative fuels, it >could be obtained through buying a special insurance policy against >damage by innovations and inventions. New types of drugs, tyres and >fuel would fall in this category, he said. > >Noravat Suwan, head of the Insurance Department, said that under >current regulations "vehicle-friendly" biodiesel must be at least 90% >diesel oil, the other ingredient being purified palm or coconut oil, >as stated by the Petroleum Authority of Thailand. > >An employee of Tri Petch Isuzu Sales Co, the country's biggest seller >of light trucks, said the company would accept claims only if the >vehicle had been used according to the conditions specified in the >warranty. > >He said that no industry organisation or state agency had yet >certified biofuels, especially biodiesel, as suitable for auto >engines. Therefore, it was difficult to accept repair claims. >However, the company would check whether the breakdown was due to >biofuels or defective engine parts. > >A mechanic at Toyota Mahanakhorn Co, a major Toyota dealer in >Bangkok, said he could not confirm whether the warranty was >invalidated if Toyota trucks were powered by biofuels. > >"For any claim that is outside the warranty conditions, the dealers >have to consult the carmakers," he said. The warranty terms for >Toyota pickups stated that only diesel fuel with a cetane value of 45 >or higher could be used. Cetane improves combustion efficiency to >increase power in diesel engines. > >Mingkwan Saengsuwan, spokesman for Toyota Motor Thailand Co, said he >could not confirm the company's position on the issue as it was for >senior policy makers to decide. > >A senior staff member at MMC Sittipol Co, the Mitsubishi distributor, >said that the company could not accept claims for breakdowns caused >by alternative fuels until the industry was properly regulated. > >Komkrit Nongswadi, spokesman for Ford Sales Thailand Co, said that in >general, if motorists breached warranties that stipulated only fossil >fuels could be used, claims would be refused. > >Many car companies have upgraded their warranties to three years or >100,000 kilometres. > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! 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