Oh get off it would you? You stated clearly that others bring
presupposition to the table and implied sanctimoniously that
somehow your thought processes were superior. Now you attempt to
disclaim your collective arrogance in the hopes of what? That all
of sudden you'll be treated like a bud?

Face it. You came off like a jackass and you still do.

You want tolerance? The next time you choose to jump anyone's ass
in the midst of one of your arrogance, superiority and ego trips
think about the word "reciprocity."

Frankly, I've got a great deal more respect for a horse that
shits on my shoe than I have for someone who comes in all barrel
chested and tries to lay a load of crap on me or anyone else.

I would tend to believe it safe to say that you have reached the
furthest extent of your knowledge base - enough so that it's
rather clear that you're now being tormented by the abyss of your
own ignorance.

It's either that or you've either been smokin' too much grass or
attending too many self-help seminars.

Todd Swearingen

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Witmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Revealed: how the smoke stacks of America
have brought the world's worst drought to Africa


>
>
> Appal Energy wrote:
>
> > Permit me to point out that [you are] not exactly
> > "value-free and neutral." You haven't exactly hesitated to
bring
> > a basketful of your own pre-suppostions to the table, now
have
> > you?
>
>
> Precisely. The above is not something I needed to have pointed
out to
> me. One difference between you and me is that I am
epistemologically
> self-conscious of what my presuppositions are. I am not
"accusing"
> anyone of having presuppositions; rather, it is simply a fact
of life
> that all people do have presuppositions. Everyone sees the
world through
> colored glasses, you and me included. Are you aware of what
your own
> presuppositions are? Are you aware of how your epistemological
starting
> point predetermines your own thinking, of what you will accept
as valid
> evidence and what you will reject? The universal tendency among
human
> beings is to think, "What my net doesn't catch isn't fish."
> Epistemological self-consciousness is as important as it is
rare. Don't
> allow yourself the luxury of thinking that you are totally
open-minded
> and free from prejudice. It is an impossibility.
>
> > Seems that your "values" tend to be those that deride the
> > values of others
>
>
> That is an observation that cuts equally well both ways here.
>
>
> > Perhaps you should . . . start your own cult?
>
>
> (Laughing) Gee, it sounds like I inadvertently stepped on the
toes of a
> "true believer." Cult? I can't believe Mr. "Prejudice-Free,
Open-Minded
> and Tolerant to All" is actually saying this.
>
>
> > [You appear to be] a professional contrary, corporately
funded perhaps, with no
> > other intent than to keep as much valuable time of others
tied up
> > as possible . . .
>
>
> Again, where is your much-vaunted "tolerance"? Do you have any
shred of
> evidence for this slander? It is solely your inference.
Reminder
> concerning your "valuable time": you can always hit the
"delete" key. It
> doesn't take much time.
>
>
> > Which pretty much brings all "conversation" to an abrupt
halt.
> >
> > If you need it to be put a little less politely and in fewer
> > words, please feel free to let your imagination roam.
> >
> > What a waste.
> >
> > Todd Swearingen
>
>
> Todd, go back and re-read your earlier admonitions about
tolerance and
> open-mindedness. You would be well advised to practice what you
preach.
> If this is the only way you can deal with someone who disagrees
with
> you, how confident can you be in what you think you know? If
you have
> the truth, you don't need to start foaming at the mouth and
making all
> sorts of slanders about my motives, etc. (which are sheer
conjecture on
> your part).
>
>
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