>Hi Kirk and Keith, > >For years now, the police have controlled if the use of tax exempted off >road diesel or heating oil have been used in automobiles. Normally the >control was if the marked diesel was in the vehicle. Every day it is >hundreds of controls in every country. It only needs a very simple >directive and they would include check for bio diesel or veg oil. If that >happened in a few places, they would catch a few. Since it is good stories, >the police have no problems to get them published and it is so new, that it >is world news. > >I am not surprised, but if we make the most of it, it will be negative >publicity for the politicians and maybe it can be turned to our advantage. >The politicians know that this is crazy and will react on bad publicity. I >see this as a possible opportunity if we contact the press and make the >most of it. > >Hakan
Hi Hakan I agree. It could explode in their faces, might even end up being a Good Thing, despite a few martyrs. I think I posted this a few messages back, from another list on this subject: >I think a little non-violent protest is needed to bring home the ideas. >If I were out there, I would try to get arrested and then fight it in >court. And in the press. Sub-judice yes, but that's only the case, not the issue. The press would like that even better than the bust stories, I think. So where's the Thoreau or the Gandhi of Biodiesel? I'm in Japan, you're in Spain, so that let's us out (phew!). :-) Best Keith > >At 12:32 PM 10/11/2002 +0900, you wrote: > >Hi Kirk > > > > >And when I tell people things are structured beyond their >wildest dream they > > >think I am a conspiracy nut. > > >Sigh. > > >Kirk > > > >Yes, sigh. You're right, things are. But also there are conspiracy > >nuts, eh? Too often I see them go flying off down some blind-alley or > >other while remaining oblivious to a real conspiracy right under > >their noses. For two centuries, economists have worried about what > >Adam Smith described as the tendency of chieftains in a market system > >"to deceive and even to oppress the public." For instance. For one > >such case, plenty of "conspiracy" around (even here) that the cancer > >evidence is all a plot by environmentalists to hurt Big Tobacco. Or > >was it by "socialists"? Both, probably. Along with the UN and its > >plot to impose World Government, yet the same people seem to defend > >big business while global corporatization somehow escapes them. > > > >Closer to home, I think people who jumped to the conclusion that the > >apparent EPA and NBB exclusion of small-scale biodiesel producers was > >a conspiracy were wrong. Just neglect, and blindness - the small guys > >were beneath their radar screen. They see profits of less than $10 > >million a year as "small". It remains to be proven, but it seems the > >way is clear now. But it was said to be a conspiracy by ADM - not a > >nice company at all, but let's get it right. > > > >Anyway, about this "funny" - what is it they say about coincidences? > >One coincidence is a coincidence, two coincidences is suspicious, > >three coincidences is enemy action. Something like that. > > > >Still, I doubt it. Even if so, I'd say it's too late, we're too > >widespread. Even tracing methanol sales, waste oil collection, etc, > >as someone just suggested - any real crackdown, would demand huge > >resources, more than it's worth, and put them in the awkward position > >of finally having to explain just why they're victimizing people > >who're probably doing more to save carbon and the environment than > >they are. Politically, it might be a hot potato. Anyway, at best, I > >think enforcement nets maybe 10% of any contraband, usually much > >less. The attraction of the illicit, plus a certain dissatisfaction > >with central government, might even encourage it. I think it did work > >that way during Prohibition didn't it? Didn't consumption go up? > > > >Best > > > >Keith > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:31 PM > > >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [biofuel] Re: Legal Obstacles for Biodiesel > > > > > > > > >Funny... there's this "Frying Squad" story from the UK, the World > > >Energy report on a tax crackdown on the guys in Maine, and this from > > >Oz, all more or less at once - from the veg-oil list yesterday: > > > > > > >Hi Guys: > > > > > > > >I briefly heard on the BBC this morning that in Australia people are > > > >being ticketed for running diesels on veggie oil and thus not paying a > > > >road tax on fuel. Then someone else told me they heard about this in > > > >San Francisco, California (which I can't find confirmation of). > > > > > > > >Anyone know more about this? > > > > > > > >Lori > > > > > >Best > > > > > >Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > >Ummm, FYI!! > > > > > > > >http://news.yahoo.com/news? > > > >tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20021009/od_nm/petrol_dc > > > > > > > >LONDON (Reuters) - A Welsh police team dubbed "the Frying Squad" has > > > >been formed to sniff out motorists who fuel their cars with cooking > > > >oil from fish and chip shops in a bid to avoid paying high government > > > >fuel taxes. > > > > > > > >Three Welsh motorists have already been caught and fined for using > > > >waste oil from restaurants selling Britain's favorite deep-fried > > > >dish, the Times newspaper reported Wednesday. > > > > > > > >"I have halved my motoring costs since I started running my Subaru on > > > >cooking oil," the paper quoted one of those stopped as saying. > > > > > > > >"The car runs just as well and even smells a lot better than diesel." > > > > > > > >The drivers were fined 500 pounds ($780) and warned that persistent > > > >offenders may face up to seven years in jail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >How does one make WVO burn to smell like diesel fuel? There must be > > > >some type of additive, eh? Good reason not to run dedicated WVO and > > > >be able to switch back to derv when going through toll booths. Time > > > >to take the decals off the windows. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
