Exactly and the discussion started with production of algae in the oceans, for bio fuel production. Seaweed is sweet water and the plantations in China you refer to are sweet water.
At 12:16 PM 10/15/2002 +0000, you wrote: >You can't drink salt water. The ocean is salt water. > > > > > > >--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think that you are changing subject somewhat. Seaweed or rice >production > > is a completely different matter than unchecked algae production in >our > > oceans. Our sweet water supplies start to be a finite resource that >needs > > to be guarded in all ways. We can live without oil, but drinking >water is > > essential for our survival. Keith knows a lot about this and since >I am > > from a country (Sweden) with an abundance of clean water, I take >the rights > > to clean water as for granted. > > > > Hakan > > > > > > At 11:37 AM 10/15/2002 +0000, you wrote: > > >Well large-scale seaweed cultivation has been going on in east asia > > >for centuries. China is currently the world's largest producer > > >cultivating over 4 million tonnes annually. The worldwide total is > > >nearly 7 million tonnes of seaweed. Check out the photo... > > > > > > >http://seaweed.ucg.ie/cultivation/nori_cultivation_scans/PorphyraNets >. > > >jpg > > > > > >I don't think it is adversely affecting the climate. In some cases > > >seaweed produced is used as feed in polyculture activities, to > > >increase fish stocks. > > > > > >Compared to some of the ideas out there for replacing/reducing > > >petroleum consumption, seaweed cultivation is positively low-tech >and > > >in my opinion, fairly benign. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > These very grand ideas, while they can be fun to engage in, can > > >often > > > > bring with them a certain sustained ignoring of the >Precautionary > > > > Principle. So I think that would be a basis for cogent >criticism as > > > > well. I think this is inherent to your criticism, I am just >stating > > > > it more broadly, explicitly: > > > > > > > > Proposals for global-scale new ways of doing things should be > > > > subjected to peer-activist-review, as best we can, to find ways >that > > > > they might have drawbacks from a Global Earth Science >standpoint. > > > > Criticisms which arise, I would say, should not be regarded as >valid > > > > reasons to dismiss the ideas out-of-hand necessarily, but >should be > > > > given some due consideration. > > > > > > > > In this case, I agree that the oceans and the energy incident >upon > > > > them are firmly inter-twined in our present global ecosystem and > > >that > > > > a global-scale project for changing that setup could be >hazardous to > > > > our health. IMO, of course. > > > > > > > > MM > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Well, I don't think any more of that than I did last week, >or > > >was > > > > >>it > > > > >> > last month. As then, I think the last thing we need is >large- > > >scale > > > > >> > messing with the ocean surfaces to produce gargantuan >amounts > > >of > > > > >> > energy to support a wasteful and unsustainable lifestyle. >As > > >Hakan > > > > >> > pointed out last time you aired this, or was it the time > > >before, > > > > >>the > > > > >> > oceans are much more sensitive to disruptive factors than >the > > > > >> > atmosphere is, and we're seeing where that has got us. Do >you > > >want > > > > >>to > > > > >> > double the damage? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > But it still seems to me you take no notice of anybody >else's > > > > >>opinion > > > > >> > unless it agrees with you. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Keith > > > > > > > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > >Biofuels list archives: > > >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
