While it's true you can "blow" your turbo, if you take the appropriate measures to reduce the risk, i.e. don't floor it going uphill, and don't run above 100 MPH for long distances (not that you would ever do that anyway) your turbo should last a long time. Some folks are reporting 150,000 miles+ without any problems. I'm not kidding when I say it feels like twice the power over stock.
-----Original Message----- From: Perry Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:45 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears Yes, but as I understand it, you're just working your turbo harder. Don't know what the long term effects will be, but I decided against the Upsolute when I got some information on how it works its magic. You certainly won't break your car in the short term, it's long term that is uncertain. And note, I only said uncertain. Time will tell; I just decided to let others be the guinea pigs. Some are quite obviously enjoying it........... Perry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Morgan, Aerials Express" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:10 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears > I second that, Thor. I also have a VW Golf TDI. You've seen > www.tdiclub.com right? > > Do yourself a favor and go and get an Upsolute chip. My mileage increased, > and the car feels like a Porsche. > > :) > > Ryan Morgan > Tempe, AZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thor Skov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:24 PM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [biofuel] Re: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears > > > > --- "Domenick V. Amato" wrote: > > What is luxo junk to one is comfort and safety to > another. The general > > public votes with its pocket book for SUVs and > pickup trucks. Fifty million > > Americans can't be politically incorrect. > > > > Dom Amato > > Hello Don, > > By that logic, slavery wasn't bad. Neither was Hitler > (I mean, 80 million? Germans can't be wrong). > > But, Don, you're absolutely correct that the general > public does vote for SUVs with their pocketbook. The > question is, why? > > Your implied answer to that question seems to be > because they know what's best for them. > > That's possible. It is also possible that people are > duped by advertising, have few fuel efficient > automobile choices, and often do not make rational > economic choices. > > I've read (and though I can't provide a reference, I'm > sure someone else on this list can) that SUVs are the > most profitable cars for automakers, which is why they > push them so hard. It's a fact that SUVs are a > loophole around CAFE standards. People have latched > onto them, for sure, but don't try to tell me that the > SUV phenomenon was not driven to a great degree by > advertising. Automakers love to claim that they just > build what people want, but they have a strong hand in > creating those wants. Fact: automakers didn't want > to have to invest in the research to design fuel > efficient engines, make the commitment to retool > factories. It was easier to take a truck frame and > build a "car" on it. Europeans have fuel efficient > cars. Why don't we? > > When I went to look for a fuel efficient car my > choices were incredibly limited - Honda Insight, Honda > Civic, Ford Focus, Toyota Prius, Toyota Corolla, and > the VW TDI. I opted for the VW Golf because it was > cheaper than the Insight and Prius (as well as more > available, was the only hatchback, could burn > biodiesel, was more comfortable than the Fords, seemed > better engineered and had better styling, and was a > hatchback. Also, I like the way a european car > drives, compared to a japanese. Now, I love my Golf, > but I was lucky to find a model that I indeed did like > from among the paucity of choices. > > I honestly think that American values are messed > up--people really do love big cars, and small cars > with big engines. It's about power power power, and > yet there is no place to use this power. People want > cars that can go 140 mph, but will never drive them > faster than half that. Doesn't seem rational to me. > I remember longing for a Toyota SR5 4WD pickup when I > was in high school (just like the one in Back to the > Future), but hey, I GREW UP! > > Fact: SUVs are not the safest cars out there; > minivans are, and they have more room, get better > mileage, and cost less than SUVs. But minivans are > not "cool" which tells me that people are thinking > about styling and image (the advertising influence) > and not about economics or practicality. Also, most > people are bent on ownership versus receiving a flow > of services from an automobile. Let me explain. > > I live in Seattle, where it seems that every other > vehicle is an SUV or a truck. People insist they need > a 4wd vehicle. But we have mild winters, with little > snow to speak of, and the one time a year it does snow > you stay at home since Seattle is full of hills and > people here don't know how to drive in snow anyway. > So 2 inches shuts everything down. Now a lot of > people I know who own SUVs claim that they need them > to go to the mountains, to go skiing, etc etc. > However, most ski areas you can get to just fine with > a front wheel drive car. And who's really going to > take a $55,000 Escalade or Navigator or Mercedes > off-road? But let's assume that they do indeed go > somewhere where an *only* an SUV can go. How often is > that? 2, 3 times a year at most? So they purchase an > SUV ostensibly for those rare occasions, and the other > 355 days they commute in a gas guzzling behemoth. If > instead they had an efficient car for their daily > needs, they could take all that money they save in > capital and operating costs (licensing, fuel, > insurance) and rent an SUV for the few times they need > it, and have cash left over. Would you go out and buy > a dumptruck if you needed to haul a load of dirt, and > then drive it to work every day? But, people are > taught by advertising and by example to think in terms > of ownership, not in flows of services. > > I know that cars are (unfortunately) part of the > american persona and american psyche. And the > American dream and the american myth. But just > because a lot of people buy SUVs does not mean that > they are making a good choice, nor that SUVs are the > best vehicle to use for one's everyday needs. > > regards, > > thor skov > > > > > > ===== > Grants Manager > Stillaguamish Tribe Of Indians > 3439 Stoluckquamish Lane > P.O. 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