Hello Paul

I just loved this line:

"The best part of this whole mess was when the French accused us of 
arrogance and the Germans accused us of being militaristic. I got a 
good laugh out of that."

I guess the conflict in Iraq must have caused a shortage of mirrors 
in the USA?  When you can find one take a look!

My user name may give the wrong impression, I do not live in the UK 
and would not wish to.  


--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Basically, we're saying to the UN, if you don't give
> > us what we want, we'll take it anyway.
> 
> No, we gave the UN a chance to participate; they decided to pass on 
that
> offer.  We had all the justification we needed in 1441 and all the 
previous
> resolutions.   I think the UN is mad because they really didn't 
take our
> threats seriously.
> 
> > precedent that we're setting.  By the U.S.'s logic, if
> > India decides that it doesn't like the government in
> > Pakistan, because it supports anti-Indian terrorists
> > (which it does, or at least has in recent years), and
> > that it constitutes a threat to its neighbors (with
> > nukes it is a potential threat to India) and is not a
> > government with clear electoral legitimacy (which it
> > isn't), India is justified in going ahead with a
> > preemptive attack to remove that threat.
> 
> If Pakistan posses a "clear and present danger" to the citizens of 
India
> then they do have the right to a preemptive attack to remove the 
threat.
> Whether they do or don't has more to do with the likelihood of 
success than
> anything else at the moment.
> 
> >
> > If the US doesn't hold itself bound by international
> > law,
> 
> 
> Who passed this "international law?" International law is non-
sequiter.
> Every country does exactly what it feels like doing at the moment.  
They act
> in their own self-interest.  Name for me two countries that 
consistently act
> in the context of a moral framework--other than the Vatican?  The 
French?
> Talk to the Greenpeace folks about that one. The Germans?   Don't 
make me
> laugh.  The Russians?  Talk to the Chechnyan's about that. The 
Chinese?  Heh
> heh heh heh. The only "international law" I see is the historical 
fact that
> might determines who wins;  it may not determine who was right, but 
it
> decides who's left.  It ain't logical, it ain't nice, but it's 
historical
> fact.
> 
> No, this is all USA bashing.  We're the lead dog for now and I 
don't see
> that we're any worse than any other country was when they were on 
top.  In
> fact we're a heck of lot better than any of the European nations 
were during
> their colonial phases.
> 
> The best part of this whole mess was when the French accused us of 
arrogance
> and the Germans accused us of being militaristic.  I got a good 
laugh out of
> that.
> 
> Paul



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