Kirk,
I am sorry, I did not catch that you were joking. After my operation, my pain in the eye make everything serious. Hakan At 12:26 PM 4/22/2003 -0600, you wrote: >You said peoples rule, democracy. Parliamentary democracy is not a true >democracy. Obviously. > >1. A Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner. >2. A Republic: The flock gets to vote for which wolves vote on dinner. >3. A Constitutional Republic: Voting on dinner is expressly forbidden, and >the sheep are armed. >4. Federal Government: The means by which the sheep will be fooled into >voting for a Democracy. >5. Freedom: Two very hungry wolves looking for dinner and finding a very >well-informed and well-armed sheep. > >"Daddy" said the little girl, "do all fairy tales begin with 'Once upon a >time...'?" >"No" said her father "they often start with 'Vote for me and...'" > >Kirk > >-----Original Message----- >From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:22 AM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [biofuel] How We Lost the Victory > > > >Kirk, > >At 07:47 AM 4/22/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Hakan, a republic is a government based on law -- not "democratic" mob >rule. > >A democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner. > >I do not understand why you think that parliamentary democracy >has anything to do with mob rule. I have never heard such a stupid >definition of democracy and never experienced it either. I have to >ask you what the opposite alternative is? > >At 08:34 PM 4/20/2003 -0500, MH wrote: > > Hi Hakan, > > Is this what you meant? > > > > > What is UK then? > > constitutional monarchy.* > > The country is a parliamentary democratic monarchy.** > > > What is Canada then? > > confederation with parliamentary democracy.* > > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic state with the > > British queen as monarch.** > > > What is Australia then? > > democratic, federal-state system recognizing the British monarch as > > sovereign.* > > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic state with the > > British queen as monarch.** > > > What is Spain then? > > parliamentary monarchy.* > > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic monarchy.** > > > What is Sweden then? > > constitutional monarchy.* > > The country is a parliamentary democratic monarchy.** > > > What is France then? > > republic.* > > The country is a semi-presidential democrayic republic.** > > > What is Germany then? > > federal republic.* > > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic republic.** > > > What is Switzerland then? > > federal republic.* > > The country is a federal parliamentary democratic republic.** > > And the USA? > > federal republic; strong democratic tradition.* > > The United States are a federal presidential democratic republic.** > > > > * http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2128.html > > ** http://www.electionworld.org/election/parties.htm > >Hakan > >At 07:47 AM 4/22/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Hakan, a republic is a government based on law -- not "democratic" mob >rule. > >A democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner. > >All democracies fail as they exploit minorities. It is essential this > >appetite is restrained by law. > > > >Kirk > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 2:38 AM > >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] How We Lost the Victory > > > > > > > >Sorry Guy, > > > >"by the people for the people" sounds very much like the Greek, > > > >Demos = people > >Kratein = rule > > > >Introduced in Athen after the war against the Persers 480 BC. > >You might be wrong about your "Founding Fathers". They might > >not have liked the French variant of it, but democracy YES. They > >created the American version of it and that is what the world > >experience today. I am not convinced that it is better than the > >French and it seems to have some very serious flaws also. > > > >Hakan > > > > > >At 04:22 PM 4/21/2003 -0700, you wrote: > > >The Founding Fathers hated "democracy", having not only evaluated it > > >historically (and found it flawed), but observed it in action in the >French > > >Revolution. > > > > > >Americans having the right to disagree with the US government has nothing > >to > > >do with "democracy". > > > > > >-Guy- > > > > > > > > > > You obviously don't believe in a democracy! Citizens have every right >to > > >disagree with their goverment--the founding farthers wanted to enshrine > >that > > >right. Since you don't believe in democracy ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make Money Online Auctions! 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