Mark,

If you can get your hands on a used trough solar collector (the kind used
professionally to heat water to steam) that might be the best bet.  

Anyone have any experience with this, or know of a salvage place?


James Slayden


On Wed, 21 May 2003, girl_mark_fire wrote:

> Spent part of the morning out at our nice new big 'experimental' site
> (Team
> Canola, a  not-very-official 'coop' of sorts),  installed our first shiny
> new over-
> feature-ified  110 gallon processor, Yay! 
> 
> anyway it was blazing hot out there, just a few miles inland and it's
> about 10
> degrees hotter than where I live. Made me think about getting more
> serious
> about the solar batch collector bit to at least take advantage of this -
> there
> were certainly a lot of BTU's diffusely floating down all over the place
> threatening me with skin cancer, and here I was slathered with sunscreen
> and
> installing a few kilowatts of electric heating (temporary).
> 
> Batch solar box heater is a probably a bit undersized for what we have in
> mind, though.
> 
> The start of the eventual "real" solar heated biodiesel project  (ie with
> panel
> collectors, not the batch solar oven type heater) is building the backup
> gas
> heated system (we don't have a roof at this place so the backup heat
> comes
> before the roof and the panels). We'll probably have to 'bite the bullet'
> very
> soon and buy a cheap propane domestic water heater (I am cursed with the
> fact that I work at three biodiesel-making sites and at none of them can
> I run a
> natural gas line, yet every free heater I run across here is natural
> gas).
> 
> I want to use the propane heater (or two?) to heat water as a heat
> exchange
> medium, then run that water into the manifold heat exchanger system I'd
> described, into the various tanks.  (heat is mostly going for the
> processors of
> course, we'll have two processors since we're into ... you guessed it,
> acid-
> base, and the theory is that we'll eventually be doing two batches every
> time
> we go out there- one batch of acid and one batch of base, to compensate
> for
> the fact that commuting to make fuel is complicated and very simple
> processors are nearly free.. in fact we got an awesome donation of a
> stirred
> stainless steel 150-200 gallon tank, already containing a motor and
> agitation
> paddles installed, just needs insulation and heating to make big old
> batches).
> 
> So I'm curious about steam and have a very basic question about it, in
> the
> application that Ken describes: Why is steam used for this application
> rather
> than hot water like I'm planning? is it because one can heat steam much
> hotter?
> thanks,
> mark
> 
> 
> 
> -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 0.
> > >
> > >
> > I'd like to plumb my workshop with steam lines the way some
> > shops are plumbed with compressed air. Then you could have
> > some immersion coils and a few steam-jacketed kettles.
> > Just hook up to the closest steam valve.
> 
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