Hoi Greg, That sounds interesting. What is a Methane digester ? Can I build it or buy it, or is it industrial equipment ?
Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 19:26 > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel > > > > Somehow, we must get the messages in better order. > > > > Ammonia was never discussed as a fuel. It's entire use in this discussion > was that of a transportation medium for the hydrogen. > > > > While ammonia will burn, there are plenty of reasons that one does not > want to be around it. It can kill. > > > > Ammonia has a boiling point of -21 degrees "F" and will lay in a liquid > form wherever you want to have it. As the temperature of ammonia rises, it > will require pressure to hold it in the liquid form. At 100 degrees "F", the > pressure required to keep it in the liquid form is 210 psig. > > > > Bob > > > > Look at the message I was responding to ( directly below ) Bob. Some how, > Greg ( not Greg H. myself ) was equating methanol as being NH3, when it is > not. Perhaps Greg, was thinking Methane ( CH4 ), instead of Methanol ( > CH3OH ), but typed Methanol instead. You can get Methane form the same > source as the NH3, with some processing ( a Methane Digester ), but, that is > completely different. > > As to Pieter Kools question, If the excreatment ( can we say that on this > list? ), which is the source of the heavy NH3 in the air, is run through a > Methane Digester, the amount of Ammonia ( NH3 ), filling the air would be > cut down to almost nothing, and the Nitrogen would be recoverable in a > usable form for farming, and BioGas would be available for use as well. > > Funny thing, You could use the Methane Digester to reduce the NH3 in the > air, put the recoverable N back into the ground, make biogas, which in turn > ( with the proper equipment ) can be made into syngas, and from there > reformed into Methanol which could power your car. > > Greg H. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel > > > > > > > what you have is methanol.compress it, and you can run your car. same as > > > with propane. greg > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Pieter Koole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > Date: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:07 AM > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ammonia as Fuel > > > > > > > > > >How does one use NH3 as energy source ? > > > >I ask this, because in Holland we have big problems with NH3 polution > > > coming > > > >out of huge animal houses with hundreds of thousends of pigs or > chickens. > > > >If we could filter the NH3 out of the air and use it as a fuel, it > would > > be > > > >great. > > > > > > > >Pieter Koole > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
