Hi, I allready make ethanol ( well, I don't but the yeast does ). I intend to use it for making BD
I'm interested in making H2 out of water as a way of storing surplus solar energy, or perhaps drive a petrol car on it. In Holland ( probably also in US ) we have many cars driving on LPG ( liquified petroleum gas ), wich maybe also can drive on H2. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrogen Economy > What I don't understand is why, in addition to experiments with making > Hydrogen, folks don't also seem to be experimenting with going > "further" than that. Why not make ethanol and methane and so forth? > Hydrogen has a drawback in that it's a gas at room temperature. So, > if you're experimenting at home trying to devise a chemical means of > storing energy, is this ideal? If you could take the H2 and somehow > immediately combine it with Carbon and Oxygen in such a way as to make > Ethanol or Methanol, then you could use those liquids more at your own > liesure? > > There are plenty of other molecules you could experiment with. I'm > just suggesting as a matter of principle there's no reason (no good > one that I can see) to just stop at H2. Sure, it could require extra > energy to get to other chemical products, but the advantages (such as > easier storage) might be worth it, and we don't know yet if the amount > of energy would be prohibitive. > > MM > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 19:51:53 +0900, you wrote: > > >>Hi all, > >>I would like to try some experiments on hydrogen. > >>First : What is the best way to make it out of water ? What electrodes > >>should I use, so they don't go in solution ? > >>What electrolite should I use ? > >>Is there a link where I can find some information for beginners on this item > >>? > >> > >>By the way : I have been driving over 100.000 km on BD now, without any > >>problems at all. Just great! > >> > >>Met vriendelijke groeten, > >>Pieter Koole > >>Netherlands > > > >Dag Pieter > > > >"Caveman Chemistry" previously had a nice description and slide show > >of producing Chlorine, Hydrogen, and Lye from table salt, using PET > >bottles, flashlight batteries, glue and stuff. "Wire electrodes would > >be corroded by the lye and chlorine. We could use gold or platinum > >wire, but the poor man's inert electrode is carbon. The easiest place > >to get carbon electrodes is from a flashlight battery. It is > >imperative that you use ordinary flashlight batteries, not alkaline > >batteries, since alkaline batteries put the zinc in the center and > >the carbon on the outside. Ordinary flashlight batteries have a > >carbon rod down the middle and a zinc can on the outside." > > > >Now that site has changed, and I can't find this section there anymore. > >http://cavemanchemistry.com/cavebook/index.html > >Caveman Chemistry > > > >Only these: > >http://www.cavemanchemistry.com/cavebook/chchloralkali2.html > > > >http://www.cavemanchemistry.com/cavebook/chchloralkali.html > > > >Here's the previous text though, below, without the slide show, hope > >it makes sense. > > > >regards > > > >Keith > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Special Sale: 50% off ReplayTV Easily record your favorite shows! CNet Ranked #1 over Tivo! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WUMW7B/85qGAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
