On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:53:45 +0100, you wrote: > >MM, > >A very good idea, let a computer do what people did in ancient times, but >forgot now. It would actually give quite good energy savings. We could even >let it utilize the mass storage of the home, instead of what most systems >do today, fight it. The Californian type of energy crises could be much >less, if this was applied. The stage of todays control systems is sad. > >Hakan >
I was thinking, in addition to this, that there are multiple aspects of home-energy-use that would benefit from some in-built ability of the house to detect time-of-day and conditions and adjust accordingly. This could include not only shades, blinds and shutters, but also such boring-sounding issues as shutting on-and-off night-time outdoor lights. Someday I also think that, in certain climates, maybe a refrigerator could be moveable so that it could source cool air and vent heat to the outside or the inside depending on outdoor conditions and desired indoor conditions. We are discussing not only retrofitting with individual devices, but recommended thinking for the future, for individual home-builders and developers of communities. Sometimes you and I and others may be met with the thinking "ah, but it's not wanted, it's not presently the cheapest way and the developers don't give a damn.... and this is often (not always, but often) attached to the extremely petty attack ....no one will ever want it... it's uneconomical now and who cares because it never can be in the near future,... you are just some economically unrealistic idealist", ...but that can all change in an economic heartbeat, as yesterday's "wacky green thinking" becomes tomorrow's desireable homebuilding procedures... and after the next time that, gosh-gee-whillackers-batman, the price of natural gas triples along with the price of electricity, in some area. We are already seeing signs in some ways that consumers, in America and elsewhere, are more impressed with the "green" "wacky" thinking of Organic and sustainable food-raising, that they see some logic in it and they are seeing some more reasonable prices. [I keep thinking that keeping some rules-of-Kosher has been a practice of some for so long... in many different religions... many thousands of years....so keeping to some sustainable practices in raising and delivering and storing and eating food is not a new or wacky concept, at all, in any way.] So, the old petty attacks which marginalized advocates of sustainability are no longer as powerful, and the attackers may find their voices dropping as they wish to hide how irrational and petty they once were. Likewise, with innovative home-energy-saving thinking such as you are collecting on your website, we will at some point see some of these ideas become mainstream. It will take a combination of good-old-fashioned-price-problems and some other factors such as homebuilders gradually seeing green homes as fetching desireable prices. By keeping an informative web-page up and running, over time, some of them will get ideas from you. You never know where or when it will happen that you affect someone's thinking. MM ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Send the freshest Valentine's flowers with a FREE vase from only $29.99! Shipped direct from the grower with a 7 day freshness guarantee and prices so low you save 30-55% off retail! http://us.click.yahoo.com/_iAw9B/xdlHAA/3jkFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
