I agree 100% with poverty being a primary factor in life expectancy. And, I agree that capitalism could cure poverty. It's about as likely to happen as communism curing poverty. Either way, it depends on the people in power being interested in the good of society and making decisions based totally on what is right. Capitalistic enterprises in which profit is reinvested rather than used for multimillion dollar bonuses for the corporate heads could do a great deal for the good of society. If all decisions were based on what is best for the corporation and society, such as hiring the best person for the job regardless of race, sex, sexual identity, creed, religion or lack of religion, the corporation would undoubtedly grow. Hence, greater revenues, greater reinvestment and greater benefit to society. In such a system, everyone would be rewarded based on their actual contribution. The worker on the fron line would be fairly compensated, and there would be no need for level upon level of complexity and beurocracy to administrate the corporation. Since everyone would realize that what is good for the corporation is good for them, everyone would be doing their individual best and all would prosper...
Wait a minute, this capitalism is sounding a lot like Karl Marx. Is it possible that all easy answers that ignore human nature are flawed? Did George Orwell know what he was talking about after all? Who would have thought? Obviously not John Stossel. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, have any of you read his book? Has anyone on the list read it? He has > valid points, especially when it comes to risk aversion and the means we go > to to save ourselves from miniscule threats. His whole point is that the > number one factor that decides how long we will live is whether or not we > live in poverty, and makes a great case for how capitalism saves those who > participate from poverty. He talks about how government is getting too big > in this country, about how much money that gets wasted as they fail time > after time after time. He talks about how the private sector can do such a > better job than the public sector of saving ourselves from ourselves. He > even talks about ADM and their success in squashing competition by using > government subsidies on ethanol. I encourage you to give it a read, it may > be eye opening, totally changed my view on Nader too. > > Cheers, > > Ryan > -----Original Message----- > From: jtcava [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 6:25 AM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] OT: Food for thought, John Stossel's New Book, Give > Me a Break > > > Crap,he sounds alot like Rush Limbaugh. > John > > Appal Energy wrote: > > >Ryan, > > > >Speaking only from personal experience, having worked environmental > issues > >for twenty some years, Stossel is a clown. He takes every valid > >scientific/social/economic argument on an issue that he is in disfavor > with, > >degrades them and particularly those who hold them with open ridicule and > >belittlement, to the point that those who don't see a subject his way are > >painted as radical, irratioinal, self-serving alarmists, at least to the > >uninitiated and unaware. > > > >What he boils down to is notthing more than an opportunist pursuing > >sensationalism and recognition at the expense of all else. > > > >Food irradiation? Toxic waste incinerators? Over fishing? Just name a > >serious subject that can and does adversely affect human health and > >livlihood and Stossel will attempt to turn it into a joke. > > > >His "insights are relative?" Only from the perspective of sending up a > flare > >as to how far some people/industries will go - how selective and > deceptive > >they will present a matter in order to create an inordinantly distorted > >perspective in the public eye - mis-information and dis- information > >practiced as an art form to the detriment of the balance of society. > > > >Todd Swearingen > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ryan Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:41 PM > >Subject: RE: [biofuel] OT: Food for thought, John Stossel's New Book, > Give > >Me a Break > > > > > > > > > >>Really, whay do you say that? Did you read his book? Frankly, I'm a > >> > >> > >little > > > > > >>bit surprised by your reaction, Keith. > >> > >>Cheers, > >> > >>Ryan > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:54 AM > >> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > >> Subject: Re: [biofuel] OT: Food for thought, John Stossel's New Book, > >> > >> > >Give > > > > > >>Me a Break > >> > >> > >> Stossel's a liar and a cheat, just another industry front- man, close > >> links with the usual suspects, no integrity. > >> > >> Keith > >> > >> > >> > >> >Well worth a read, the book clearly describes how, since the 1950s, > >> >the US Government has run amock. I read it cover to cover with > >> >biodiesel production in mind, and found Stossel's insights relevant > >> >to our cause. Below is the book's description: > >> > > >> > > >> >"When he hit the airwaves thirty years ago, Stossel helped create a > >> >whole new category of news, dedicated to protecting and informing > >> >consumers. As a crusading reporter, he chased snake-oil peddlers, > rip- > >> >off artists, and corporate thieves, winning the applause of his > >> >peers. > >> > > >> >"But along the way, he noticed that there was something far more > >> >troublesome going on: While the networks screamed about the dangers > >> >of exploding BIC lighters and coffeepots, worse risks were ignored. > >> >And while reporters were teaming up with lawyers and legislators to > >> >stick it to big business, they seldom reported the ways the free > >> >market made life better. > >> > > >> >"In Give Me a Break, Stossel explains how ambitious bureaucrats, > >> >intellectually lazy reporters, and greedy lawyers make your life > >> >worse even as they claim to protect your interests. Taking on such > >> >sacred cows as the FDA, the War on Drugs, and scaremongering > >> >environmental activists -- and backing up his trademark irreverence > >> >with careful reasoning and research -- he shows how the problems that > >> >government tries and fails to fix can be solved better by the > >> >extraordinary power of the free market. > >> > > >> >"He traces his journey from cub reporter to 20/20 co-anchor, > >> >revealing his battles to get his ideas to the public, his struggle to > >> >overcome stuttering, and his eventual realization that, for years, > >> >much of his reporting missed the point. > >> > > >> >"Stossel concludes the book with a provocative blueprint for change: > >> >a simple plan in the spirit of the Founding Fathers to ensure that > >> >America remains a place 'where free minds -- and free markets -- make > >> >good things happen.'" > >> > >> > >> > >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >> > >> Biofuels list archives: > >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > >> > >> Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > >> To unsubscribe, send an email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > >>----------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > >> > >> > >-- > > > > > >>-- > >> Yahoo! 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