:-)

Dave, most of your very own national treasures of US climate-change 
denialism have been doing sharp U-turns for quite some time now, 
don't get left behind. Nothing's more stale than yesterday's spin.

Wow, what an embarrassment of riches I have here that you'd have to 
blind-eye to think that. And I haven't even been looking for it, it 
just arrives. Let's be really fresh about it - here's one from next 
month:

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0409/feature1/index.html
Global Warning @ National Geographic Magazine
"There's no question that the Earth is getting hotter - and fast. The 
real questions are: How much of the warming is our fault, and are we 
willing to slow the meltdown by curbing our insatiable appetite for 
fossil fuels?"
[More...]

Human cause? The editor says so. He says scientists all over the 
world say so, and the 74-page feature pulls it all together with the 
evidence they're finding. That huge bulging mountain of evidence by 
comparison with which all else is but a pimple, proving beyond all 
doubt that it's just an extreme leftwing conspiracy to take over 
humanity, the world, the universe and all the fish has somehow 
succeeded so far in escaping their attention. I guess they all must 
be part of this dreadful conspiracy, eh? All in the pay of... Um, 
of... Who was it again they're all in the pay of? Socialists 
(arghhh!) plotting to deprive Americans of their property rights, it 
says here in the list archives. Hm... perhaps not. Er, how about this 
one - the cabal of developing countries that are plotting with the UN 
to take all America's money? No?

>Andrew,
>
>Global warming is in my opinion an attempt by the extreme left to control the
>activities of society to the extent that they'll control all of human
>activities.  This is about power and the lefts never ending desire 
>to regulate free
>people.
>
>Trying to control CO2 is an exercise in futility.  Hydrocarbons are in
>constant change. It's a part of nature as surely as the water cycle. 
>These people
>even come up with ridiculous hypotheses that would enable them to control the
>amount of cattle allowed to be on farms. Cattle produce methane gas you know.
>The same microbes present in the digestive system of cattle can be found every
>where in nature.  The grasses the cows eat will eventually be consumed by
>these microbes in or out of the cow.
>
>If you don't believe this, take some grass clippings, put them in a plastic
>bag with a couple of quarts of water and let it set in a warm area.  Tie the
>bag up and you will soon see the bag swell.  The gases,CO2 and methane ,are
>being produced by the bacteria.  After a few days you can dump the 
>contents of the
>bag and you'll find a product very similiar to cow waste.

Yes, there are quite a lot of people here who make and use and 
promote biogas. So what? What's it have to do with sinister extreme 
leftwing conspiracies to eradicate freedom and all we hold so dear, 
including CAWKI?

>There may be some real reason for hope in resolving the energy crisis with
>the new technologies being developed today.  The advancements being 
>made by such
>corporations as Changing World Technologies, certainly is a sign of good
>things to come. If we can really take virtually any hydrocarbon and 
>expose it to
>say 600 psi @ 500 degrees F for relatively short periods of time and produce a
>useable oil, think of the possibilities.

You mean we won't have to go cold turkey after all - we can all go on 
wasting as much energy as we want, at the rate of 200 times our fair 
share or something, as if there's no tomorrow? Hooray!

LOL!

Re Changing World Technologies:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/33476/

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/36736/

Anyway, Dave, it seems this extreme leftwing conspiracy has spread 
its filthy tentacles everywhere, nothing remains untainted, not even 
the Senate:
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/32769/
Senate committee backs $60 million "abrupt climate change" research program

Not even the Pentagon:
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/32446/
Pentagon Goes Crazy for Massive Climate Change

Not even the White House:
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/37916/
Climate data mark shift in emphasis

Best stick to Rupert Murdoch and FauxTV, it's the last bastion. Just 
as well we still have REAL science, like this here:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/32435/

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/32566/

Best

Keith


>Thank you for listening to my rambling note.
>
>Sincerely,
>Dave Hannah



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