Hello Enthusiasts, There are sections of this recent post from Robert that are so powerful that they need to be repeated. I read it several times and excuse me for highlighting what I consider as important elements, but here goes...
"Alfred E. Newman" debates "Farmer John". I changed some of the wording to suit my frame of mind and added a few paragraphs. Sometimes three people in a post are confusing. Too bad we can't use different colors to understand who is talking. And it is true that... "Many Americans believe that we act with the world's best interest in mind." It all started in school and church. Our beliefs can't change without replacing them with a new belief. Therefore, when we rip out a deeply imbedded belief, we need a new one to pop into its place. This is basic to human nature "Those of us who live most anywhere else <sic> have very little say in national politics, as the candidates are essentially chosen for us by the political system on the east coast. I watched the debate in stunned amazement that "Mickey Mouse" and "Dopey" are both vying for the opportunity to <sic> feed their egos as king of the country for a short while. Nuclear or not...there are so many different issues that are too federally controlled. Most all of us would <sic> like to have a section on the ballot that says "Neither candidate is suitable. Please try again." > But let's back on biofuel subject : at last Kyoto protocol has been > ratified and the US industry will be obliged to make efforts to compete > with more virtuous companies especially in Europe. It should be good for > the planet...and the americans who are living on. Despite their government. This next statement does not make sense... especially when applied to rural economic development. Returning the power back to the farmers for self-sufficiency and producing an excess to sell to others is agreeable. I will meet with both Department of Ag and Department of Energy people from a western state in a couple of weeks. They are ready, willing, and able to help start-up people.... and this is not BIG BUSINESS or industry. This is a community project that is intended to be cloned throughout the state. And it is biomass focused on waste materials. No fertilizers or pesticides involved!!! > Biofuel is suspected to be a carbon wells but with a bad ecological > balance when produced even from organic and extensive agriculture if far > from consumption places and if the fuel needs heavy process. We have discussed this problem at length in this forum. Regional and community level energy resource development must follow after conservation, otherwise, we'll end up with Big Agribusiness displacing Big Oil. > One of the only ecologicaly interresting way right now is in a "short > circuit" meaning local organic production of vegetal oil and local > consumption in basic diesel motors (or more efficient special built ones) So why can't you guys understand that there are two players in the biofuels arena. Biodiesel and Fuel Ethanol. Fuel ethanol is quite legal in most places and can utilize waste materials. I sound like a broken record, but the premises is that many SMALL PRODUCTION FACILITIES can do more ultimate good than the huge facilities supported by the government. And we intend to prove this again and again and again. I hope to set up a web site soon. All it takes is time and money and/ or a little know how. You have your finger on an important principle. As you describe further on, sometimes government gets in the way of such progress. This is true in Canada as well. I cannot produce ethanol for my vehicle where I live. It's illegal to do so. I'm allowed to waste a lot of electricity making hydrogen from the grid (and run my vehicle on H2), but I'm not permitted to distill ethanol. There are farms all over the valley where I live that simply burn their "agricultural residue" and pollute the air (rather than gasifying it for energy), but I can't aid in cleaning the airshed by burning ethanol in my truck. And you mentioned two important things in this paragraph. First, our system to make fuel ethanol runs on cellulosic waste. And second, our system comes with a generator that produces electricity. What you do with that electricity is your business. You can sell it back to the electrical company or use it for your own purposes...even to produce hydrogen, if you like. Perhaps you should be working toward legalizing fuel ethanol at this time. And when you are ready to set up a real system and do some real good, we can help. Peggy _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/