Hi Mel ; Yes quite humourous (and yes America was stolen/conquered). It doesn't sound like you are expecting a logical answer. I'll try to give you one anyway.
Most of the strange rules you listed were from the old testament.. There were very legitimate reasons for sacrificing a bull, observing the Sabbath, and so forth. I could explain them to you but it would be a very long post. Anyway, when Christ walked the earth he gave us a new covenant. Homosexuality is not the only abonimation before God. Much of what we think is good is an abomination before God. Love of money, a proud look, materialism, boasting, promiscuity, etc. This shows me how far we as a society have wandered. > But what are learned and cosmic conscious citizens > of the universe supposed to do with such > backwardness and dogmatism? Please ty to keep in mind is that EVERY generation thinks it is "enlightened". Only time proves how wrong they all were. In the war with Iraq, I was fascinated to watch the tactics of the US forces. One thing they did was to try to get the Iraq soldires to disobey orders. If there is one way to create havoc in the opposing army it is to get the solders to disobey orders. When the chain of command is broken and solders start making their own orders, the army will disintegrate. That's why we have court marshals. This does not mean that all generals are brilliant, but if a general is making poor choices, then we need to fix that problem. The solution would never be to let the soldiers make the orders. What worries me most about the "enlightenment" of today is the source of the "enlightenment". The page at rense.com said this perhaps better than I can. As in any army, and speaking from a Christian perspective, there is a clear chain of command eatablished by God. The order is God > Jesus > Man > Woman > Child > Criminal > Satan. In our current "enlightenment" the chain of command is being turned upside down. It will become Satan > Criminal > Child > Woman > Man > Jesus. Once you understand this you can understand all the apparent madness in the world and where it is coming from. There is a war on for your soul and there is no surer way to loose the war then to turn the chain of command upside down. This is what is happening due to our "enlightenment". The days are coming (already here to some extent) when children will put their parents in jail on a whim. Children and criminals will be in charge. No surer way to loose their souls (and everyone else's) than to put them in charge. There is a method to the madness. "Enlightenment" is in reality a cruel death spiral. All the apparent madness in the world can be understood by asking a simple question : "How many souls have been lost today?". When you look at it from this perspective, you can suddenly understand all the madness in the world and where it is coming from. There is another small problem with "embracing all religions". I agree it sounds very resonable, peaceful, and "cosmic conscious". But as a Christian I believe that a time is coming where this won't be an option. In other words, a time is coming when you will need to make a life or death choice between God and Satan. This will be the most difficult decision you will ever make. No-one could make that decision without preparation and many years of meditation. A person "embracing all religions" won't be prepared to enter the test. Let's hope I'm wrong about all this. List participants of different faiths may not understand or agree with my statements (very sorry about that). Some Christian list participant will be able to listen and understand. Peace!! Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand --- Mel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh Peggy it WAS marvelous here in Austin tonight. > > I too was outside looking at the colors and how the > pink lit up the whole sky and the clouds. > > The point is here that NO ONE has a monopoly on God > and it's different for everyone. > > I personally read the Urantia book and like the > Bahaii faith, as it embraces all religions. > > But what are learned and cosmic conscious citizens > of the universe supposed to do with such > backwardness and dogmatism? > > Maybe we just have to keep teaching. Not so sure at > this point. > > One of my favorite ways to counter some of the dogma > and I'm right and they are wrong crowd is to ask > them some simple questions. > > 1 If my grandfather stole a car in 1890 before they > titled them and anyone knew what it was and hid it > in the barn, and I take it out 110 years later, is > it still a stolen car? Most folks nod and say why > yes it is. > > Then I ask them...If my great -great grandfather > stole some folks land, murdered a bunch of the "land > owners" would it still be stolen land? And murder? > Even if they didn�t have "titles" to the land. They > of course say yes. > > Then I remind them that is exactly what we did here > in this country to the natives and what the imperial > powers did in EVERY country they "civilized" > > And they say > > "well that's different" and I ask how > > And they stammer and stutter and can�t really > answer. > > And the same today. If a Govt came into a country, > helped with a coup de etat and installed their own > puppet ruler and then proceeded to allow THEIR > corporations to pillage and loot the country for > their own counties benefit? Is it SILL A STOLEN CAR? > > Mel > > Who wishes he did not have to participate in the > criminal enterprises of "his country" but he IS > LOOKING for ALTERNATIVE > > :( > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peggy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Biofuel] He talks to God > > > Hello Mel, > > Tonight my husband and I were marveling at the > sunset and how appreciation, joy, and good will are > the most important things to bring into our lives to > amplify the same. Well, then I read your message. > Golly gee, is it time for a good book burning or > will that amply the same? > > Peggy > > Subject: He talks to God > > I figgered' since he talks to God and Jesus so much > he might help me in my study of the Bible. > > Wonder whut kinda answer's I'll get back? > > mel > > Dear President Bush, > > Thank you for doing so much to educate people > regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal > from you and understand why you would propose and > support a constitutional amendment banning same sex > marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage > is based between a man a woman." I try to share that > knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone > tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for > example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18: 22 > clearly states it to be an abomination. . . End of > debate. > > I do need some advice from you, however, regarding > some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow > them. > > 1. Leviticus 25: 44 states that I may possess > slaves, both male and female, provided they are > purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine > claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not > Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own > Canadians? > > 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as > sanctioned in Exodus 21: 7. In this day and age, > what do you think would be a fair price for her? > > 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman > while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness > - Lev. 15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I > have tried asking, but most women take offense. > > 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I > know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev. > 1: 9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the > odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? > > 5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the > Sabbath. Exodus 35: 2. clearly states he should be > put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him > myself, or should I ask the police to do it? > > 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating > shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11: 10, it is a > lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't > agree. Can you settle this? Are there degrees of > abomination? > > 7. Lev. 21: 20 states that I may not approach the > altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have > to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision > have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? > > 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, > including the hair around their temples, even though > this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How > should they die? > > 9. I know from Lev. 11: 6-8 that touching the skin > of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play > football if I wear gloves? > > 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19: 19 by > planting two different crops in the same field, as > does his wife by wearing garments made of two > different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). > He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it > really necessary that we go to all the trouble of > getting the whole town together to stone them? > Lev.24: 10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death > at a private family affair, like we do with people > who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20: > 14) > > I know you have studied these things extensively and > thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, > as well, you have a direct line to God so I am > confident you can help. > > Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is > eternal and unchanging. > > Mel > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release > Date: 11/1/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release > Date: 11/1/2004 > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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