Hi Fritz and All ;

> Hey Peter,
> i am strukt a bit by you logic

Not my logic, God's logic.

> So,Man is before Woman,than Child and so forth....
> I think God made a mistake on this one, if Woman
> would be before Man i think
> we would have more Peace on Earth...

You might be right, but I will say that you have never
met my ex-wife!  Thailand is 12 time zones away from
eastern US.  This is as far away from her as I can get
and still stay on planet earth!

> And about Children,there is nobody more honest than
> Children why dont we let
> them call the shots for a while???

I don't think they would visit the doctor to get
vacinated by choice or go to the dentist, or eat their
vegetables or go to school for that matter either.  I
don't have a hard time imagining total chaos if
children are in charge.  Ever see "Lord of the Flies"?
 Notwithstanding your statement that most children are
very honest,  I think that society would completely
unravel.  But never mind, I believe you will have a
chance to see the effects of your proposal.

Cheers!

Best Regards,

Peter G.
Thailand

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Guag Meister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [Biofuel] He talks to God - warning -
> more Christian content.
> 
> 
> > Hi Mel ;
> >
> > Yes quite humourous (and yes America was
> > stolen/conquered).  It doesn't sound like you are
> > expecting a logical answer.  I'll try to give you
> one
> > anyway.
> >
> > Most of the strange rules you listed were from the
> old
> > testament..  There were very legitimate reasons
> for
> > sacrificing a bull, observing the Sabbath,  and so
> > forth.  I could explain them to you but it would
> be a
> > very long post.  Anyway, when Christ walked the
> earth
> > he gave us a new covenant.
> >
> > Homosexuality is not the only abonimation before
> God.
> > Much of what we think is good is an abomination
> before
> > God.  Love of money, a proud look, materialism,
> > boasting, promiscuity, etc.  This shows me how far
> we
> > as a society have wandered.
> >
> > > But what are learned and cosmic conscious
> citizens
> > > of the universe supposed to do with such
> > > backwardness and dogmatism?
> >
> > Please ty to keep in mind is that EVERY generation
> > thinks it is "enlightened".  Only time proves how
> > wrong they all were.
> >
> > In the war with Iraq, I was fascinated to watch
> the
> > tactics of the US forces.  One thing they did was
> to
> > try to get the Iraq soldires to disobey orders. 
> If
> > there is one way to create havoc in the opposing
> army
> > it is to get the solders to disobey orders.  When
> the
> > chain of command is broken and solders start
> making
> > their own orders, the army will disintegrate. 
> That's
> > why we have court marshals.  This does not mean
> that
> > all generals are brilliant, but if a general is
> making
> > poor choices, then we need to fix that problem. 
> The
> > solution would never be to let the soldiers make
> the
> > orders.
> >
> > What worries me most about the "enlightenment" of
> > today is the source of the "enlightenment".  The 
> page
> > at rense.com said this perhaps better than I can. 
> As
> > in any army, and speaking from a Christian
> > perspective, there is a clear chain of command
> > eatablished by God. The order is God > Jesus > Man
> >
> > Woman > Child > Criminal > Satan.  In our current
> > "enlightenment" the chain of command is being
> turned
> > upside down.  It will become Satan > Criminal >
> Child
> > > Woman > Man > Jesus.
> >
> > Once you understand this you can understand all
> the
> > apparent madness in the world and where it is
> coming
> > from.  There is a war on for your soul and there
> is no
> > surer way to loose the war then to turn the chain
> of
> > command upside down.  This is what is happening
> due to
> > our "enlightenment".  The days are coming (already
> > here to some extent) when children will put their
> > parents in jail on a whim.  Children and criminals
> > will be in charge.  No surer way to loose their
> souls
> > (and everyone else's) than to put them in charge.
> > There is a method to the madness.  "Enlightenment"
> is
> > in reality a cruel death spiral.
> >
> > All the apparent madness in the world can be
> > understood by asking a simple question : "How many
> > souls have been lost today?".  When you look at it
> > from this perspective, you can suddenly understand
> all
> > the madness in the world and where it is coming
> from.
> >
> > There is another small problem with "embracing all
> > religions".  I agree it sounds very resonable,
> > peaceful, and "cosmic conscious".  But as a
> Christian
> > I believe that a time is coming where this won't
> be an
> > option.  In other words, a time is coming when you
> > will need to make a life or death choice between
> God
> > and Satan.  This will be the most difficult
> decision
> > you will ever make.  No-one could make that
> decision
> > without preparation and many years of meditation. 
> A
> > person "embracing all religions" won't be prepared
> to
> > enter the test.  Let's hope I'm wrong about all
> this.
> >
> > List participants of different faiths may not
> > understand or agree with my statements (very sorry
> > about that).  Some Christian list participant will
> be
> > able to listen and understand.
> >
> > Peace!!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Peter G.
> > Thailand
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Mel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh Peggy it WAS marvelous here in Austin
> tonight.
> > >
> > > I too was outside looking at the colors and how
> the
> > > pink lit up the whole sky and the clouds.
> > >
> > > The point is here that NO ONE has a monopoly on
> God
> > > and it's different for everyone.
> > >
> > > I personally read the Urantia book and like the
> > > Bahaii faith, as it embraces all religions.
> > >
> > > But what are learned and cosmic conscious
> citizens
> > > of the universe supposed to do with such
> > > backwardness and dogmatism?
> > >
> > > Maybe we just have to keep teaching. Not so sure
> at
> > > this point.
> > >
> > > One of my favorite ways to counter some of the
> dogma
> > > and I'm right and they are wrong crowd is to ask
> > > them some simple questions.
> > >
> > > 1 If my grandfather stole a car in 1890 before
> they
> > > titled them and anyone knew what it was and hid
> it
> > > in the barn, and I take it out 110 years later,
> is
> > > it still a stolen car? Most folks nod and say
> why
> 
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