For those of you who figured out that whole hierarchy thing and wondered if maybe it's a little off the mark, don't worry about being held accountable by God. I hear She's pretty forgiving. :-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey Peter, > i am strukt a bit by you logic > > there is a clear chain of command >> eatablished by God. The order is God > Jesus > Man > >> Woman > Child > Criminal > Satan. > > So,Man is before Woman,than Child and so forth.... > I think God made a mistake on this one, if Woman would be before Man i > think > we would have more Peace on Earth... Two words for you on that one. Margaret Thatcher. (Could also have probably picked Golda Meier (sp?)) Brian > And about Children,there is nobody more honest than Children why dont we > let > them call the shots for a while??? > Fritz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Guag Meister" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:32 PM > Subject: RE: [Biofuel] He talks to God - warning - more Christian content. > > >> Hi Mel ; >> >> Yes quite humourous (and yes America was >> stolen/conquered). It doesn't sound like you are >> expecting a logical answer. I'll try to give you one >> anyway. >> >> Most of the strange rules you listed were from the old >> testament.. There were very legitimate reasons for >> sacrificing a bull, observing the Sabbath, and so >> forth. I could explain them to you but it would be a >> very long post. Anyway, when Christ walked the earth >> he gave us a new covenant. >> >> Homosexuality is not the only abonimation before God. >> Much of what we think is good is an abomination before >> God. Love of money, a proud look, materialism, >> boasting, promiscuity, etc. This shows me how far we >> as a society have wandered. >> >> > But what are learned and cosmic conscious citizens >> > of the universe supposed to do with such >> > backwardness and dogmatism? >> >> Please ty to keep in mind is that EVERY generation >> thinks it is "enlightened". Only time proves how >> wrong they all were. >> >> In the war with Iraq, I was fascinated to watch the >> tactics of the US forces. One thing they did was to >> try to get the Iraq soldires to disobey orders. If >> there is one way to create havoc in the opposing army >> it is to get the solders to disobey orders. When the >> chain of command is broken and solders start making >> their own orders, the army will disintegrate. That's >> why we have court marshals. This does not mean that >> all generals are brilliant, but if a general is making >> poor choices, then we need to fix that problem. The >> solution would never be to let the soldiers make the >> orders. >> >> What worries me most about the "enlightenment" of >> today is the source of the "enlightenment". The page >> at rense.com said this perhaps better than I can. As >> in any army, and speaking from a Christian >> perspective, there is a clear chain of command >> eatablished by God. The order is God > Jesus > Man > >> Woman > Child > Criminal > Satan. In our current >> "enlightenment" the chain of command is being turned >> upside down. It will become Satan > Criminal > Child >> > Woman > Man > Jesus. >> >> Once you understand this you can understand all the >> apparent madness in the world and where it is coming >> from. There is a war on for your soul and there is no >> surer way to loose the war then to turn the chain of >> command upside down. This is what is happening due to >> our "enlightenment". The days are coming (already >> here to some extent) when children will put their >> parents in jail on a whim. Children and criminals >> will be in charge. No surer way to loose their souls >> (and everyone else's) than to put them in charge. >> There is a method to the madness. "Enlightenment" is >> in reality a cruel death spiral. >> >> All the apparent madness in the world can be >> understood by asking a simple question : "How many >> souls have been lost today?". When you look at it >> from this perspective, you can suddenly understand all >> the madness in the world and where it is coming from. >> >> There is another small problem with "embracing all >> religions". I agree it sounds very resonable, >> peaceful, and "cosmic conscious". But as a Christian >> I believe that a time is coming where this won't be an >> option. In other words, a time is coming when you >> will need to make a life or death choice between God >> and Satan. This will be the most difficult decision >> you will ever make. No-one could make that decision >> without preparation and many years of meditation. A >> person "embracing all religions" won't be prepared to >> enter the test. Let's hope I'm wrong about all this. >> >> List participants of different faiths may not >> understand or agree with my statements (very sorry >> about that). Some Christian list participant will be >> able to listen and understand. >> >> Peace!! >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Peter G. >> Thailand >> >> >> >> --- Mel Riser wrote: >> >> > Oh Peggy it WAS marvelous here in Austin tonight. >> > >> > I too was outside looking at the colors and how the >> > pink lit up the whole sky and the clouds. >> > >> > The point is here that NO ONE has a monopoly on God >> > and it's different for everyone. >> > >> > I personally read the Urantia book and like the >> > Bahaii faith, as it embraces all religions. >> > >> > But what are learned and cosmic conscious citizens >> > of the universe supposed to do with such >> > backwardness and dogmatism? >> > >> > Maybe we just have to keep teaching. Not so sure at >> > this point. >> > >> > One of my favorite ways to counter some of the dogma >> > and I'm right and they are wrong crowd is to ask >> > them some simple questions. >> > >> > 1 If my grandfather stole a car in 1890 before they >> > titled them and anyone knew what it was and hid it >> > in the barn, and I take it out 110 years later, is >> > it still a stolen car? Most folks nod and say why >> > yes it is. >> > >> > Then I ask them...If my great -great grandfather >> > stole some folks land, murdered a bunch of the "land >> > owners" would it still be stolen land? And murder? >> > Even if they didn't have "titles" to the land. They >> > of course say yes. >> > >> > Then I remind them that is exactly what we did here >> > in this country to the natives and what the imperial >> > powers did in EVERY country they "civilized" >> > >> > And they say >> > >> > "well that's different" and I ask how >> > >> > And they stammer and stutter and can't really >> > answer. >> > >> > And the same today. If a Govt came into a country, >> > helped with a coup de etat and installed their own >> > puppet ruler and then proceeded to allow THEIR >> > corporations to pillage and loot the country for >> > their own counties benefit? Is it SILL A STOLEN CAR? >> > >> > Mel >> > >> > Who wishes he did not have to participate in the >> > criminal enterprises of "his country" but he IS >> > LOOKING for ALTERNATIVE >> > >> > :( >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Peggy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:19 PM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: RE: [Biofuel] He talks to God >> > >> > >> > Hello Mel, >> > >> > Tonight my husband and I were marveling at the >> > sunset and how appreciation, joy, and good will are >> > the most important things to bring into our lives to >> > amplify the same. Well, then I read your message. >> > Golly gee, is it time for a good book burning or >> > will that amply the same? >> > >> > Peggy >> > >> > Subject: He talks to God >> > >> > I figgered' since he talks to God and Jesus so much >> > he might help me in my study of the Bible. >> > >> > Wonder whut kinda answer's I'll get back? >> > >> > mel >> > >> > Dear President Bush, >> > >> > Thank you for doing so much to educate people >> > regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal >> > from you and understand why you would propose and >> > support a constitutional amendment banning same sex >> > marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage >> > is based between a man a woman." I try to share that >> > knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone >> > tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for >> > example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18: 22 >> > clearly states it to be an abomination. . . End of >> > debate. >> > >> > I do need some advice from you, however, regarding >> > some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow >> > them. >> > >> > 1. Leviticus 25: 44 states that I may possess >> > slaves, both male and female, provided they are >> > purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine >> > claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not >> > Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own >> > Canadians? >> > >> > 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as >> > sanctioned in Exodus 21: 7. In this day and age, >> > what do you think would be a fair price for her? >> > >> > 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman >> > while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness >> > - Lev. 15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I >> > have tried asking, but most women take offense. >> > >> > 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I >> > know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev. >> > 1: 9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the >> > odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? >> > >> > 5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the >> > Sabbath. Exodus 35: 2. clearly states he should be >> > put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him >> > myself, or should I ask the police to do it? >> > >> > 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating >> > shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11: 10, it is a >> > lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't >> > agree. Can you settle this? Are there degrees of >> > abomination? >> > >> > 7. Lev. 21: 20 states that I may not approach the >> > altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have >> > to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision >> > have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? >> > >> > 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, >> > including the hair around their temples, even though >> > this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How >> > should they die? >> > >> > 9. I know from Lev. 11: 6-8 that touching the skin >> > of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play >> > football if I wear gloves? >> > >> > 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19: 19 by >> > planting two different crops in the same field, as >> > does his wife by wearing garments made of two >> > different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). >> > He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it >> > really necessary that we go to all the trouble of >> > getting the whole town together to stone them? >> > Lev.24: 10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death >> > at a private family affair, like we do with people >> > who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20: >> > 14) >> > >> > I know you have studied these things extensively and >> > thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, >> > as well, you have a direct line to God so I am >> > confident you can help. >> > >> > Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is >> > eternal and unchanging. >> > >> > Mel >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Biofuel mailing list >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel >> > >> > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> > >> > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >> > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ >> > >> > --- >> > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system >> > (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release >> > Date: 11/1/2004 >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system >> > (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release >> > Date: 11/1/2004 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Biofuel mailing list >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> === message truncated === >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. >> www.yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
