Peter,


If your sawdust has a low moisture content (say around 15%), I would use 1.2
litres of LOF for each kilogram of sawdust.



I don't know what an optimum time would be.  With turning daily you may only
need 5 to 7 days.  Around 21 days might be needed.  Commercial compost
systems are required to let the heap stand for at least 42 days before being
used (i.e sold to the public).  A composting toilet using sawdust as an
absorbant may take 2 to 3 years to process.  Stable manure with sawdust
takes three years to break down to the highest quality compost but is usable
at a lower quality after one and two years.



Graeme 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: 01/03/05 07:08:59

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Compost with sawdust and LOF.

 

Hi Kim ;

 

LOF is Liquid Organic Fertilizer or what Keith calls

Household Compost Activator, in other words, urine.

 

Yes I guess I could put in some grass or leaves, which

is what most recipies call for.  But two problems with

that.  One is I live in a concrete  village.  There is

no grass or trees anywhere.  That is no exageration.

I don't have a front yard or back yard.  Just concrete

everywhere.  Nobody around here ever has grass to cut,

so I can't just pick up someone elses cuttings either.

  In order to get some grass I would need to get in my

truck, drive a kilometers, stop on some else'e

property and start cutting away.  Lot's of free

sawdust fines though.

 

Secondly, for my project in the near future, I will

have LOT's of wood after the hammer mill but not so

much greens.  This is more a learning excersize.

 

So I'm just investigating the possiblities of no

grass, ONLY sawdust and LOF.  The wood is carbon, and

the LOF is the nitrogen, and it should be possible if

I can keep it aerated.  Is it?  What ratio?

 

Truthfully, there are also a few small table scraps,

but very little.  I live with my daughter and there is

normally only a watermelon or orange peel per day.

Let's ignore that for the time being.

 

If this doesn't work, I will go grass cutting, but

please humor me first.  It should be possible with

just sawdust and LOF. Is it?   What ratio?  How much

time?  Is strong ammonia smell normal?  Is very little

heat normal (I think not)?

 

Once I get a formula and procedure that looks correct,

  I will do a 55 gallon drum.  Already got the drum.

 

Best Regards,

 

Peter G.

Thailand

 

 

 

--- Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

> While I am not sure what LOF is, I have used the

> very fine sawdust that I

> get from my table saw in my compost.  Mine is used

> in our toilet buckets

> first, but it must be mixed with something that has

> a little more fiber or

> it compacts.  Compaction in a compost pile means no

> oxygen, which is a

> problem.  Mix some grass, well mulched into the mix

> and it should work better.

> Bright Blessings,

> Kim

>

> At 06:06 AM 1/2/2005, you wrote:

> >Hi Keith ;

> >

> >Since I plan on making lots of compost from wood, I

> >thought I would start experimenting with the

> abundant

> >and free sawdust from next door.

> >

> >I read the pages on JtF, but none comes close to my

> >situation.  The sawdust is REALLY fine, like

> blowing

> >sand.  I will use a fly screen to keep it from

> coming

> >out the container holes.  It should compost quickly

> >because particle size is so small, if I can keep it

> >aerated.

> >

> >Could you recommend a mix ratio and procedure only

> >using sawdust and LOF to start?  I am using a 10

> gal

> >pail, turn it every day, and I get a strong smell

> of

> >ammonia after a few days.  Not too much heat at

> all,

> >only a little.

> >

> >Best Regards,

> >

> >Peter G.

> >Thailand

> >

> >

> >

> >

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