>>with the popularity of gas hybrids, i was wondering if it's possible to
>>make a diesl hybrid? anyone know if it's being considered/designed???
>>
>>thanx, kenn
>
> See:
> http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004092.html
> [Biofuel] More hybrid technology news
>
thanx keith - looks like only big trucks & buses; don't know if hybrid
diesel cars are on the horizon??
Oops - you didn't follow the links, it's about hybrid diesel cars, not buses.
"The PNGV diesel hybrid cars were hitting 80 mpg when the program was
scrapped. I wonder if those were "real life application" figures?"
And:
PNGV is here, about halfway down:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_future.html
Do diesels have a future?
That's here:
The US government/industry collaboration Partnership for a New
Generation of Vehicles (PNGV), launched in 1993, was intended to
reduce carbon dioxide emissions by developing ultra-clean, 80
miles-per-gallon (34 km/litre) "hypercars" without sacrificing
comfort, safety or performance, focusing on cleaner and more
efficient diesel engines. Details:
Technology Administration: Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles
http://www.ta.doc.gov/PNGV-Archive/default.htm
Hybrid Electric Vehicles: Program Background
http://www.ott.doe.gov/hev/background.html
Hybrid Electric Vehicles: Related Links
http://www.ott.doe.gov/hev/related.html
Hybrid Electric Vehicles
http://www.ott.doe.gov/hev/
General Motors' Precept achieved the mileage goal -- 80 miles per
gallon. The car won the Popular Science "Best of What's New" Grand
Award for automotive technology for 2000. The full-size
five-passenger sedan is powered by two electric motors and a
high-efficiency diesel. Its drag coefficient is just 0.16. GM says
the Precept marks the leading edge of technology, and its design will
have a strong influence on future cars. See General Motors' Precept
Delivers on 80-mpg Promise:
http://gm.com/company/gmability/environment/gm_and_the_env/releases/ov
erview_release_10xx00.html
Chrysler's stylish Dodge ESX3 lightweight diesel-electric hybrid,
part of the PNGV program, combines a direct-injection diesel with an
electric motor and an advanced battery to achieve 72 miles per gallon
(30 km/litre). The 5-seater body is made of thermoplastic -- the same
cheap plastic used to make soft-drink bottles. Carbon dioxide
emissions are 56% lower than a conventional petrol engine, with 50%
less particulate matter than a conventional diesel and 70% less
nitrogen oxides. Range is 420 miles (672 km). Unlike totally electric
vehicles, hybrids have unlimited driving range and never need to be
plugged in for recharging. See DaimlerChrysler unveils electric car:
http://detnews.com/2000/autos/0002/23/02230070.htm
Ford's bid for the car of the future is the P2000 Prodigy 5-seater
sedan, an ultra-light diesel-electric hybrid that boosts fuel economy
to 63 miles per gallon (27 km/litre) and was expected to qualify as
an ultra low emissions vehicle. Part of the PNGV program. The 1.2
litre, direct injection diesel DIATA engine is 35% more efficient
than an equivalent petrol engine. "Extremely fuel-efficient", and "A
giant advance toward the production of lightweight, environmentally
responsible vehicles with outstanding economy and emissions levels".
See Ford Hybrid Electric Vehicle is on horizon:
http://www.autoworld.com/news/Ford/Ford_Hybrid.htm
The costs of the new hypercars came right down from that of the
earlier prototypes, but were still higher than production models. See
Super-High-Mileage Car Just a Concept, For Now, Washington Post,
August 17, 2001:
http://washingtonpost.com:80/wp-dyn/articles/A25087-2001Aug17.html
Early in 2002 the PNGV program was axed by the Bush administration,
to be replaced with the "Freedom Car" program focusing on hydrogen
fuel-cells -- not expected to produce tangible results for a decade.
See Driving In Circles: New Fuel-Efficiency Initiative Is More PR
Than Progress:
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm?ID=4959
Diesel hybrid cars.
And here's why it was axed:
... Well, there and mouldering away on various back shelves in
Detroit. And this explains why:
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/30857/
Those links are broken now, these ones will work:
Driving In Circles
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/10937/
Fool Cells - How Detroit Plays Americans For A Bunch Of Suckers
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/20706/
See also the Mokhiber-Weissman review of Jack Doyle's book, "Taken
for a Ride: Detroit's Big Three and the Politics of Pollution":
http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2000/000031.html
Best wishes
Keith
kenn
> Follow the links.
>
> Best
>
> Keith
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