Greeting Keith
Even though we spend several hours of search in Internet about
gelled fuel, we are not able to find any information about the use
of the cellulose , but which have been reported to be very
successful.
Thank you Keith bringing here real practical experience ,how
to make yourself work , which is the real objective of this group.
sharing knowledge , practical one on biofuel applications and
social neworking based on this knoweldge.
Solid biofuel is poor rural man need , even India lack
research in this field, eventhough India has the simple and
solid biofuel social technology making use of cowdung , any
dried leaves , solar drying , amk possible removing animal waste from
big cites by self employed poor social enterprenuers, reusing the
wastes solids, instead of incinerating and land fill dumping , selling
this one as good poor man fuel of the low cost .But this simple
social self employed best technology is excluded by the
conventional technology of urbanization using gaseous biofuel is
pushed nowadays.
Jelled biofuel with clean burning using novel products and
process can be as important project as that of BioD that appear
to have impact as social technology as the cow dung based solid
fuel technology.
Thanking once again on behalf all the developing countries ,
students and teacher can do better social work with this new
products and good hope to have the great green future for the
needful based on the biomass fuel.
sd
Pannirselvam
On 4/25/05, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings Pannir
>
> > Greeting Larry
> >
> > Dear Larry
> >
> > Think of using the fuel gel made using cellulose
> >powder or wood charcoal carbon powder for making fuel from
> >alcohol . Several important information are available from the old
> >list archives of this group. It is not very clear whether you want
> >use the fuel for distillation of ethanol .Still for what purpose
> >?
> >
>
> Charcoal powder, that's interesting. You can also use wallpaper glue,
> I guess that's cellulose.
>
> This is from a previous message on ethanol gel:
>
> >"Mix 11 grams of Calcium Acetate with 30 mg of water. Make sure all
> >the Calcium Acetate
> >is dissolved, this might take an hour of occasional stirring.
> >Measure 10 mg of the solution. Slowly add 40 mg of ethanol. As you
> >add the ethanol, the mixture should gel instantly. Pour off any
> >remaining ethanol (a very small amount). Because the mixture gels
> >instantly, you do not have to combine the two until you need to use
> >it for cooking."
> >
> >I made some Calcium Acetate by neutralizing acetic acid with lime.
> >Works well, gels immediately, burns very nicely, but it's not very
> >stable, best to make it when you need it. This way, since it's
> >bioduels in the Third World rural development setting that we're
> >most interested in, everything required is probably available
> >locally, or could be. Ethanol can be brewed on-site (and probably is
> >already), even if it's not absolute; acetic acid can be brewed the
> >same way, by aerating the mash, and agricultural lime is fairly
> >ubiquitous.
> >
> >Here's another one, with proprietory ingredients:
> >
> >Ethanol Solid Fuel Gel / Fire Starter
> >
> >Carbopol EZ-3 Polymer á Primary thickener for alcohol systems -
> >neutralization with a specific amine is critical
> >á Provides good clarity and overall aesthetics
> >á Low skinning & cracking
> >á Approximate burn time of 2.5 hours per 200 grams
> >á Self-wetting polymer for improved handling and easier full-scale processing
> >
> >Formulation
> >Percent Function Trade Name Supplier
> >Carbopol EZ-3 - Weight Percent 0.55 - Thickener - Noveon, Inc.
> >DI Water - Weight Percent 23.90 - Diluent
> >Ethanol - Weight Percent 75.00 - Fuel
> >Triisopropanolamine - Weight Percent 0.55 - Neutralizing agent - Dow Chemical
> >100.00
> >
> >Procedure
> >1. Add the Carbopol EZ-3 polymer to the deionized water with no
> >agitation. The polymer will wet out in a few minutes.
> >2. With moderate agitation, add the ethanol.
> >3. Heat the triisopropanolamine until melted and add with good
> >agitation. The product will thicken during this step.
> >Increased agitation will be required.
>
> Regards
>
> Keith
>
>
> > See here for information for the use of jelled fuel alcohol:
> >
> >Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
> >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
> >
> >Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable):
> >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
> >
> > We have not done so far any experimental work in this field but
> >surely wish to start soon .
> > Some 100 000 Brazilian Real economy is mad possible to be
> >the gain due to the operation of the one small aeroplane/ year
> >that have been adopted to use ethanol insecticide applications
> >of big Brazilian soy agribusiness the gain compared to the
> >conventional fuel. Thus big one become very big and small farmer
> >very poor in the globalised economy .
> > But , We are interested to use the ethanol fuel to remote
> >area for cooking using gel and charcoal powder , thus making
> >possible fuel for poor too and this is very costlier too due to
> >transportation in remote area.
> > In Africa , the jelled alcohol fuel has been found to be
> >very successful one as advocated by UN .
> >Any useful information and collaborations in this project are well
> >come as we lost the cashew apple of 500 000 hectare in our small
> >state alone in the north east of Brazil all wasted due to the
> >local market, man power cost and fuel problems as these are all
> >like Forest making food and fuel , but all lost , yet we have
> >poor with out food
> > This natural vitamin products with 100 porcent waste need to
> >very urgently be solved by global and local collaborative work
> >which is our major research work which has Brazilian research
> >council aid .But the problem is very complex to solve .
> >We are open for any new product , process , investment regard to
> >this natural products
> > In this respect we need more novel methods , experience in other
> >country too .
> >Instead of food we too think of jelled ethanol fuel too for
> >sustainability for the local sustainable developments as biomass
> >sustainability project
> >
> >Thanking you
> >
> >Truly
> >
> >Sd
> >Pannir selvam
> >
> >Brasil
> >
> >On 4/25/05, Larry Pickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I would like to run a still using alcohol as the fuel
> > > source. Where can I find information on making large
> > > alcohol burners. I have found information on small
> > > pocket stoves but nothing big. Seems we should be able
> > > to run on what we make rather than buy fuel to make
> > > fuel.
>
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