Steve,

Yupper. Me thinks you have a pretty good handle on "viable
economics." Their viability depends upon who benefits
economically...that and the "trickle down theory" of economics to
campaign warchests by those who tend to benefit handsomely.

Todd Swearingen

----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering


> Todd, to the contrary...I realise that cross pollination does
occur, that is
> how we get new varieties ( otherwise crop breeders would be
just wasting
> their time in plastic green houses rubbing plants together!)
but it makes me
> laugh when they won't release a conventionally bred line (that
won't be sown
> at least 3 km's from another Canola crop) because of the threat
or cross
> pollination, and yet GM crops pose an acceptable risk with only
a 300meter
> buffer!
> Sorry you got the wrong idea. To me the issue is
confusing...what really is
> the go? It seems when there is money to be made the risks
change. To coin a
> phrase " the truth is out there"
> Regards
> Steven
>
> PS I've almost been farmin' 20 years
>
> Appal Energy wrote:
>
> > I'm kinda' curious how long you been a farmin'?
> >
> > If I interpret your enunciated words "threat of CROSS
> > POLLINATION" correctly, you don't give much credence to the
idea.
> >
> > Forgive me please for bein' just a poor dumb Kansas boy. But
> > cross pollination has been goin' on since the first plant
took
> > root.
> >
> > How is it that so many, and especially so many farmers, seem
to
> > think that the process (and now problem as a result of GMOs)
is
> > some sort of urban myth?
> >
> > Todd Swearingen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steven Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering
> >
> > > Well, can I say please get them out, I would like to see
the
> > info as well, the
> > > GMO debate is hotting up here, especially since our shire
has
> > declared itself a
> > > GMO free shire. Very controversial. I would like to be more
> > informed of the
> > > debate, considering our local crop institute would not
release
> > any HEAR (High
> > > Erucic Acid Rape) lines for me to grow for fuel to try
running
> > in my farm
> > > machinery because of the threat of CROSS POLLINATION !!
> > > Regards
> > > Steven
> > >
> > > goat industries wrote:
> > >
> > > > there are plans to produce crops of genetically modified
oil
> > bearing plants.
> > > > The oil extracted could be used directly as a diesel fuel
> > because it is
> > > > composed of a high percentage of small chain length
> > molecules. If anyone
> > > > wants more info i could dig out the relevant papers.
> > > >
> > > >
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