Tim, Greg, Todd, et al.

I remember the day I enlisted and the process, guess it just pays to
ask questions.  I knew about the "reserve" requirement if I did not
complete 6 years on active duty.  (I enlisted for 4 years active, two
reserve).  I also knew what the guys who enlisted for three years
would have to serve.

Predatory,
  Come on, the recruiter comes and tries to sale the military.  He
paints a rosey picture.  If you ask do some research (kick the tires,
look under the hood) you can get a pretty good picture of what life
will be like and it is not that bad of a life. (of course you may have
to fight in a war, but Duh! that is what a military is for)

Intimidating,
  Of Course, any new experience is going to be intimidating.

Larry

On 6/3/05, Tim Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Greg,
> 
> I know you addressed this to Todd but I thought I would give you a first hand 
> account. As mentioned before I was in the military.
> 
> Deceptive - On the day I was "out processed" I discovered that all those 
> young men and women who had served less than three years,
> would have to serve a minimum one year in the national guard or reserves. 
> None of them were informed of this when they signed up on
> the two year enlistment program nor were they told during their 2 years of 
> active duty. Then we were all informed that if you did
> not serve a minimum of six years that we would all be placed on inactive 
> ready reserve and could be called back at any time by the
> military should our service be required. Again there was never any mention of 
> this in recruitment or while on active duty. Because I
> did serve six years, it didn't affect me but it all came as a great surprise 
> just the same. Quite Deceptive.
> 
> Predatory - I was recruited from High School. The military is composed mostly 
> of 18 - 24 year old men and women. And knowing that
> many young 18 year old boys and girls lack life experiences to make the most 
> informed decisions (especially when deceptive means are
> employed) then I would consider that predatory.
> 
> Intimidating - Well, I don't see that I was intimidating except for the 
> mountain of legalese and paperwork that was involved in my
> signing the dotted line.
> 
> Maybe Todd can elaborate more eloquently but this was my experience.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Todd,
> 
> could you elaborate on deceptive, predatory and intimidating ?
> 
> Greg H.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 09:31
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang
> 
> 
> > Larry,
> >
> > Military recruitment/recruiters are as much a part of the problem as are
> > the policy makers.
> >
> > All one has to do is look at the deceptive, predatory and intimidating
> > practices of recruitment to gain insight as to the manipulative
> > mentality that must  be well guarded against in all ranks/levels of a
> > theoretically free society.
> >
> > Until recruitment practices across the board are void of manipulation,
> > they are as much fair game for protest as is anyone or any segment of
> > any institution that also manipulates, preys upon and deceives a
> > nation's citizenry.
> >
> > Let those who wish to serve enter into service under no illusions, not
> > under fog of promise or incomplete and/or inaccurate premise(s).
> >
> > Todd Swearingen
> >
> 
> 
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