The US will not have to influence politics to stay in Iraq. As to who is in control it is becoming less and less a simple question. Not surprisingly, our idiot child president did not learn from Viet Nam and the Neo Cons around him don't care if we end up in a permanent state of war with the rest of the world.

In Viet Nam after the Bao Die (sp?) monarchy fell there was a succession of "popular" leaders (Minh, Ky, Theiu etc,) who quickly realized that their survival depended more on American arms and money than on the efforts of their own country. Thus at the same time we were trying to "Vietnomize" the war ("we will not send American boys to Asia to do what Asian boys should be doing for their own country" LBJ) the government du jur was doing everything it could to keep us there knowing full well that if we left they would be toast. Yesterday it was announced by the defense department that in spite of all these hundreds of Iraqi police and army units we have been training none of them could operate successfully without the presence of US troops. As the people of Iraq grow more and more unhappy with the US presence the government grows more and more dependent on it and as a result less and less popular with the people. We are headed for a situation in which we cannot leave and cannot win. Afghanistan is heading the same way. The old war lords are poised to win the next elections for governors which will set up the same instability that exists now in Iraq. We can no more afford to maintain this kind of empire than could the French in Indochina or the Soviet Union in central Asia. We kid ourselves that in was Ronald Raygun who brought down the Soviets. It was Osama and while we choose not to accept that he knows what he did and how. He brought down one super power and has no doubt he can do it again. So far it is working. He is bleeding us white all over the world and at home.
Rick

Kirk McLoren wrote:

I expect the occupation to grow. Either the US will influence politics enough to have the appearance of home rule or if that fails then it will be more obvious they are under US control. At any rate something as valuable as all that oil will be commandeered and don't be surprised if the "conflict" expands.
Kirk



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