Speaking of outrage, I thought the "Mission Accomplished" news stunt was 
pretty outrageous.

robert luis rabello wrote:

>Clif Caldwell wrote:
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>>Wow and to think that I was going to use this list only to figure out 
>>how to titrate WVO correctly.
>>At the risk at attracting perhaps merited flames ......
>>Where is the outrage at the coverage of the war in Iraq ?
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>       There's a lot of this kind of discussion in the archives.
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>>Have you heard one positive story on NPR or anywhere else ?
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>       Well, initially the news coverage seemed almost gleeful.  The news, 
>however, has been getting more and more grim.  Perhaps the early flush 
>of military success made some people believe that our mission in Iraq 
>would be accomplished with little bloodshed.  (Did anyone with a 
>serious knowledge of our capability to project power ever believe we 
>would have difficulty rolling over the Iraqi army?  They made the most 
>inept defense of a nation I can recall.)  Now, however, we're dealing 
>with the harsh reality of trying to unify a nation long held together 
>by force.  I, for one, never doubted we could defeat the Iraqi army. 
>I, for one, never believed we could defeat the Iraqi people.
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>>Where is the outrage at the fine work Michael Moore and numerous others 
>>are doing at peddling lies ?
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>       Lies?  Hmm . . .  I'll let Todd handle that one.
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>>Where is the outrage when fine mothers, sisters, sons and fathers who 
>>are proud of the service their sons and daughters are offering in the 
>>Armed Services are not given any voice and one heartbroken mother is 
>>given weeks of press coverage because she is against the war in Irag ?
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>       I've found news coverage in the United States astonishingly pro war. 
>  For a long time, it seemed that very few voices were being raised in 
>opposition, and those of us who DID speak out were being shouted down 
>by a strong militarist sentiment that seemed pervasive in the United 
>States.  This is another topic we've discussed here many times.
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>       Having written this, please don't confuse my opposition to the war 
>with opposition to individual soldiers.
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>>And finally a point that may need some attention by the "Men of God" 
>>judicatory committee on this list :
>>Where is the outrage at allowing Muslim clerics right here in America to 
>>daily call for the UTTER destruction of not only Americans who believe 
>>that Allah may not be the way, but also any other infidels?
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>       You will find a very strong thread of sentiment among most people who 
>post here that decries "fundamentalism" in any form.  However, this is 
>also an international list, and some of the discussion here has 
>included an examination of WHY radical Islam has captured the 
>imagination of so many people.  Most of us Americans don't like to 
>hear some of these things.  Though I often find them hard to read, 
>listening has opened my mind to a perspective that differs radically 
>from my own.
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>       Now, if we were behaving as a truly "Christian" nation, the world 
>would be a very different place, and I believe we would not be 
>inciting the wrath of so many citizens in other countries.
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>>All I'm saying is that I for one  feel compelled to be very conscious of 
>>my own "blind spots" as I am chief among those who can stand only by 
>>grace .....
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>       Indeed, as we all are.
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>>Just a thought to further take this list into a land far away from 
>>renewable energy sources.
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>       Some of these issues may seem tangential at first.  Close 
>examination, however, will reveal how energy use, foreign policy, 
>religious perspective, racism and many other "isms" blend to create 
>the overall milieu in which the topic of biofuels exist.  We who have 
>been here for any length of time agree by consensus that which is 
>deserving of discussion and that which is not.  It's remarkably self 
>regulating, for the most part.
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>       Do you disagree with anything I've posted concerning "men of God" and 
>the scriptures?  Do you not see the relationship between oil reserves 
>in Venezuela and Mr. Robertson's political posturing?  In this thread, 
>we have the realms of religion and politics blending quite clearly 
>with an underlying need to access the world's energy supplies; by 
>force, if necessary.  Deal with the energy use issue, and the 
>compelling "need" to complain about Chavez will go away.
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>robert luis rabello
>"The Edge of Justice"
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