...agreed.
Mike
Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mike,
It was "little" sarcasm and playing on that the lack of advance of
liberty, is currently called "freedom". I have no answer of why it is
such a lack of advance in liberty and so much talk of freedom.
US missed an opportunity in the last election, but Bush cannot stay
after his period, if he does not also try to pull AH's last trick. I
doubt that this can be done in US, nothing is really left other than
the hope that next election will be more kind to the world. Until
then, US will continue with self inflicting wounds and destroying
their friends, it is nothing to do about it. In this case sarcasm is
as usual a way to survive with at least some of the senses intact.
Hakan
At 20:33 18/04/2006, you wrote:
>Hakan,
>
>When I opened this message, I could smell a little sarcasm but, I'm
>at a loss as to why. There might be a little misunderstanding here
>since (I think) we are on the same side of the issue(s).
>
>My previous post was in the form of a question. Do you have an answer?
>
>Mike
>
>Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>Mike,
>
>Now I finally got it and understand the meaning of freedom versus
>liberty. Freedom as practiced in US at the moment, also means freedom
>from responsibility and accountability.
>
>Liberty do carry some expectations on responsibility and
>accountability, which are the parts that US lacks at the moment.
>
>Took some time to catch, but I guess that it is expected from
>ignorant foreigners like me.
>
>Hakan
>
>
>At 18:17 18/04/2006, you wrote:
> >Redler,
> >
> >why do you hate freedom so much?
> >
> >Get with the program.
> >
> >Michael Redler wrote:
> >
> > > "The advance of liberty is the path to both a safer and better world."
> > >
> > > - George W. Bush, Speech to United Nations General Assembly (September
> > > 21, 2004)
> > >
> > > 1.) 1% testing of US cattle for mad cow disease/"shares" risk with Japan
> > > 2.) World Health Organization ranks US 37 in health care quality
> > > 3.) Rumsfeld makes millions from sale of bird flu vaccine
> > > 4.) December, 2001: United States' withdrawal from the 1972
> > > Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty
> > > 5.) November, 2001: A 10-year-old program to help Russians prevent
> > > theft of nuclear warheads and weapons-grade uranium and plutonium was
> > > reduced by $20 million.
> > > 6.) "Clear Skies" weaken and delay health protections already required
> > > under the law.
> > > 7.) EPA "C.H.E.E.R.S." CHEMICAL INDUSTRY TO STUDY EFFECTS OF KNOWN
> > > TOXIC CHEMICALS ON CHILDREN
> > >
> > > FEMA, FDA, USDA, etc, etc, etc.
> > >
> > > So...looking back at the quote, what does this say about "the advance
> > > of liberty"?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Clear skies ref: http://www.nrdc.org/air/pollution/qbushplan.asp
> > > C.H.E.E.R.S. ref: http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa-alert.htm
> > > WHO ref: http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
> > > Bird Flu ref: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0312-06.htm
> > > ABM ref: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/12/13/rec.bush.abm/
> > > prevent theft of nuclear warheads ref:
> > >
> >
> http://www.ransac.org/Projects%20and%20Publications/News/Nuclear%20News/2001/11_13_01.html#1b
> > >
> > > */Mike Weaver /* wrote:
> > >
> > > *JAPANESE OFFICIALS RESIGN OVER U.S. MAD COW DEBACLE*
> > > Despite new cases of Mad Cow disease surfacing in the U.S., Japan is
> > > reopening its borders to American beef. As a result of the policy
> > > decision half of the members of Japan's beef-safety government
> > > advisory
>[snip]
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