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Hey Randall,
its greed just greed and again greed and only
greed!
Fritz
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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 3:19
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans
torturers or supporters of torture?
Hakan,
To answer your question: No. Your
questions imply that ALL Americans have
proof about systematic and
long-term torture, and quite simply I do not
believe that you have the
evidence to support that assertion. What other
countries have been
reported to and are listed with Amnesty International as
having employed
torture? Are you going to issue the same indictment of
the citizens of those countries as well?
Aren't ALL member nations
in the UN responsible for not forcing ALL
countries to stop using
torture? Using your assertion, aren't the citizens
of all those
countries responsible as well? Yes, I know it is easy to say
that the US has a veto on the Security Council...but why not simply change
the system?? Sitting back and just saying that they cannot is the
same as
the comparison to 1930's and 1940's Nazi Germany.
Simply
having a vote does not imply responsibilty, much less confer the
ability
to force the action (or non-action) of a government. This
does
not excuse torture...but nor does it solve it either. I
believe you need
to first figure out what makes humans CAPABLE of torture
then you can
address the REASONS that humans employ
torture.
--Randall
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From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
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Sent:
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers
or supporters of torture?
>
> US has not stopped torture,
according to Amnesty
>
> http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=1519912
>
>
Who belive that they stopped? It casts a shadow over all Americans,
who
> are responsible for their government. At least republicans are
clearly to
> identify with what's going on. This especially elected
representatives,
> who refuse to take a stand and stop their support of
this administration.
>
> Why is there so little public actions to
get rid of the current
> government?
> A massive rejection of its
methods, would make them resign, but it is
> no signs of it. No actions
are the same as compliancy, Americans of
> today, must have a very good
understanding and sympathy for the
> Germans in the 1930's. They only
"let it happen" also.
>
> Was Vietnam not enough, or should future
generations have to feel
> more guilt of their ancestors
behavior.
>
> Hakan
>
>
>
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