>LOL...amen brother...have to use the whole coin.  The List is helping me do
>so.  I've also printed out and am keeping in front of the Credo for JtF.
>Also keeping on my desktop a shortcut to the words of the song and the song
>itself.

Golly, Mike. I do hope it helps.

>Ok...so now more fatheadedness...what is "Namaste"?

Literally "I bow to you." Other people say it here too.

I've said "O kage samade" here a couple of times. It's because 
smileys don't do Japanese bows. It means "Thankyou", a certain kind 
of thankyou, literally: "In your shadow I thrive."

I have some reservations about the following, on Namaste. For one 
thing, I don't think India or the East have a sole franchise on 
spiritual wisdom any more than "the West" has a sole franchise on 
crass materialism.

But it explains what Namaste means. Its use seems to be spreading on 
the Internet, and elsewhere. A useful addition, IMHO.

Best

Keith



 Copyright 1993 by Himalayan Academy.
 
"Shake hands  and  come out fighting."  It's the referee's
final counsel to two pugilists about to beat each other's
brains out with clenched fists.  Even outside the ring, a
handshake can be  a little off-putting.  When one returns
to  the  West  from  an  extended  sojourn  in  Bharat or
elsewhere  in  Asia, the hand suddenly thrust forward can
seem more ominous than friendly, especially  if  the hand
offered is that  of  a  stranger.  Of  course,  one  soon
acclimates and the menacing aspect of this salutation subsides.
 
 Perhaps that  moment of intimidation derives  from the history of
 the  handshake. According  to one  anthropologist, the  handshake
 evolved in medieval Europe, during the times of knights. It seems
 not all were laudable Lancelots or gallant Gallahads. More than a
 few  would approach  opponents  with  concealed weapons  and when
 within  striking  distance  do  the  needful,  driving  dagger or
 striking sword into the unguarded paladin.
 
 To  fend off  the fear  of  a  foe's foul  foil, knights  took to
 offering their open and visibly empty  hand to each other. It was
 a kind  of surety,  a gesture  of trust  which said,  "See, I  am
 unarmed, so you  may safely let me approach."  As the story goes,
 soon the gesture itself took on  meaning and the less noble, less
 lethal man on the street adopted  the handshake as the proper way
 to greet others.
 
 In much of  the world today, people do not  shake hands when they
 meet. They may hug formally or  kiss one another on the cheek, as
 in  eastern Europe  and Arab  states. They  may bow  softly, eyes
 turned  to  the  ground,  as  in  Japan  and  China. The Hawaiian
 greeting, termed  "honi," consists of placing  the nostril gently
 beside that of  the person greeted, a kind  of sharing of breath,
 which is life and Pran(a).
 
 For, Hindu(s),  of course, the  greeting of choice  is "Namaste,"
 the two hands  pressed together and held near  the heart with the
 head  gently bowed  as one  says, "Namaste."  Thus it  is both  a
 spoken  greeting and  a gesture,  a Mantr(a)  and a  Mudr(a). The
 prayerful hand position is a Mudr(a) called Anjali, from the root
 Anj, "to  adorn, honor, celebrate  or anoint." The  hands held in
 union  signify  the  oneness  of  an  apparently dual cosmos, the
 bringing together of  spirit and matter, or the  self meeting the
 Self. It has been said that  the right hand represents the higher
 nature  or  that  which  is  divine  in  us,  while the left hand
 represents the lower, worldly nature.
 
 In   Sanskrit   "Namas"   means,   "bow,  obeisance,  reverential
 salutation." It  comes from the root  Nam, which carries meanings
 of bending,  bowing, humbly submitting and  becoming silent. "Te"
 means "to you."  Thus "namaste" means "I bow to  you." the act of
 greeting  is called  "Namaskaram," "Namaskara"  and "Namaskar" in
 the varied languages of the subcontinent.
 
 Namaste has become a veritable icon of what is Bharatiye. Indeed,
 there  must  be  a  Bharatiye  law  which  requires  every travel
 brochure. calendar and poster to include an image of someone with
 palms   pressed  together,   conveying  to   the  world  Bharat's
 hospitality,  spirituality and  graceful consciousness.  You knew
 all that, of course, but perhaps  you did not know that there can
 be subtle ways of enhancing the gesture, as in the West one might
 shake another's  hand too strongly to  impress and overpower them
 or too briefly, indicating the withholding of genuine welcome.
 
 In  the  case  of  Namaste,  a  deeper  veneration  is  sometimes
 expressed  by bringing  the fingers  of the  clasped palms to the
 forehead, where they touch the brow, the site of the mystic Third
 Eye. A  third form of  namaste brings the  palms completely above
 the  head, a  gesture said  to focus  consciousness in the subtle
 space just  above the Brahma-randhra,  the aperture in  the Crown
 Chakr(a). This  form is so full  of reverence it is  reserved for
 the Almighty and the holiest of Sat Guru(s).
 
 It  is  always  interesting,  often  revealing  and  occasionally
 enlightening  to  muse  about  the  everyday  cultural traits and
 habits  each  nation  and  community  evolves,  for in the little
 things  our  Big  ideas  About  Life  find  direct  and  personal
 expression. Take, for instance,  the different ways that American
 and  Japanese  tool-makers  approach  the  same  task.  A saw for
 cutting lumber,  if designed in the  U.S., is made in  such a way
 that the carpenter's stroke away  from his body does the cutting.
 But in japan  saws are engineered so that  cutting takes place as
 the carpenter draws  the saw toward himself. A  small detail, but
 it yields a big difference.
 
 The American saw can, if  leaned into, generate more power, while
 the Japanese saw provides more control and refinement in the cut,
 requiring  surprisingly less  effort. Each  has its  place in the
 global  toolbox. each  speaks --  like the  handshake and namaste
 greetings --  of an underlying  perception of man's  relationship
 with things.
 
 In the West we are  outgoing, forceful, externalized. We are told
 by Ma bell to "reach out  and touch somebody." We are unabashedly
 acquisitive, defining our progress in life by how much we have --
 how  much  wealth,  influence,  stored  up  knowledge,  status or
 whatever. Every culture exhibits these traits to some extent, but
 in the east Mother is there to remind us, "Reach in and touch the
 Self."  here  we  are  taught  to  be  more  introspective,  more
 concerned with  the quality of  things than their  quantity, more
 attuned with the interior dimension of life.
 
 So, there you  have it, the whole of  Eastern and Western culture
 summed  up in  the handshake  which reaches  out horizontally  to
 greet  another,  and  Namaste  which  reaches  in  vertically  to
 acknowledge that, in truth, that there is no other.
 
 As  a test  of how  these two  greetings differ,  imagine you are
 magically  confronted with  the Divine.  The Paramatma, Almighty,
 walks up to you on the street. What do you do? reach out to shake
 His hand? Probably not. Though suitable between man and man, it;'
 an unseemly expression between man  and Paramatma. We never shake
 hands with paramatma. I mean, what if your palms are sweating?
 
 So you  namaste instead. the  reason it feels  natural to namaste
 before Paramatma is that it is,  in its very essence, a spiritual
 gesture,  not a  worldly one.  By a  handshake we acknowledge our
 equality  with  others.  We  reveal  our  humanity. We convey how
 strong we are,  how nervous, how aggressive or  passive. There is
 bold physicality to it. For  these and other reasons, Popes never
 shake hands.  Kings never shake  hands. Even mothers  don't shake
 hands with their own children.
 
 Namaste is  cosmically different. Kings  do namaste, Sat  Guru(s)
 namaste and mothers  namaste to their own family.  We all namaste
 before the Almighty, a holy man or even a holy place. The namaste
 gesture bespeaks our  inner valuing of the sacredness  of all. It
 betokens  our  intuition  that  all  souls  are  divine, in their
 essence.  It  reminds  us  in  quite  a  graphic manner, and with
 insistent repetition, that we can see Paramatma everywhere and in
 every human  being we meet.  It is saying,  silently, "I see  the
 Deity in  us both, and bow  before Him or Her.  I acknowledge the
 holiness  of even  this mundane  meeting. I  cannot separate that
 which is spiritual in us from that which is human and ordinary."
 
 And while  we are singing  the praises of  Namaste, it should  be
 observed  how  efficient  a  gesture  it  is  in  an  age of mass
 communication.  A  politician,  or   performer  can  greet  fifty
 thousand people  with a single  Namaste, and they  can return the
 honor instantly.  In such a situation  a handshake is unthinkable
 and a mere waving of one hand is somehow too frivolous.
 
 There are other, more mystical meanings behind Namaste. The nerve
 current of  the body converge in  the feet, the solar  plexus and
 the hands. Psychic energy leaves  the body at these junctures. To
 "ground" that  energy and balance  the flow of  Pran(a) streaming
 through the nerve  system, Yogi(s) cross their legs  in the lotus
 posture, and  bring their hands  together. The Anjali  Mudra acts
 like  a simple  Yog(ic)  Asan(a),  balancing and  harmonizing our
 energies,  keeping  us  centered,  inwardly  poised  and mentally
 protected. It closes our aura, shielding us psychically. It keeps
 us from  becoming too externalized,  thus we remain  close to our
 intuitive nature, our super consciousness.
 
 Here are some insights into Namaste from a number of Hindu(s):
 
 o  Namaste elevates  one's consciousness, reminding  one that all
    beings,   all  existence   is  holy,   is  the   Almighty.  It
    communicates, "I  honor or worship  the Divinity within  you."
    Also  it draws  the individual  inward for  a moment, inspires
    reflection  on the  deeper realities,  softening the interface
    between  people.  It  would  be  difficult  or  offend or feel
    animosity toward any one you greet as Paramatma.
 
 o  Namaste  is  a  gesture  of  friendship  and kindness, also of
    thanks  or  special  recognition.   Mystically  it  is  called
    "Namaskara Mudra" in the Agami(c)  Pooja, and it centers one's
    energy within the spine.
 
 o  I've heard  it means "I  salute the Almighty  within you." The
    true Namaste gesture is is  accompanied by bowing the head and
    shoulders slightly.  This is a gesture  that lessens our sense
    of ego and self-centeredness, requiring some humility to do it
    well -- whereas shaking hands can be quite an arrogant event.
 
 o  Touching  the  hands  together  puts  you  in  touch with your
    center, your soul. namaste puts you  forward as a soul, not an
    outer personality.
 
 o  The gesture has a subtle effect  on the aura and nerve system.
    bringing focused  attention and a collection  of one's forces,
    so  to speak.  It  also  protects against  unnecessary psychic
    connections which are fostered by shaking hands. This might be
    called a form of purity also -- protecting one's energies.
 
  This form  of acknowledgment is  so lovely, so  graceful. Just
    look at two  people in Namaste and you will  see so much human
    beauty and refinement.



>Also, I want
>to be sure Jason and Weaver read my post to Jesse that included my
>excitement about the three of us either living near or having ties near
>where each of us live.  Any suggestions?  Thanks.  Mike D
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense
>
>
> > >Hi Keith...and List...thank you.  I had read, but forgotten (shame
> >>on me), the Credo before I asked to join.  It gave me the confidence
> >>to ask to join.  Wonderful to be reminded of, wake up with and read
> >>this morning.  Is that sunshine I see peaking through the clouds?!!!
> >>Getting ready to Look on the Bright Side of LIFE!!!  Mike DuPree
> >
> > Hey Mike, you just made my day. Not only it helped but you read it before.
> > :-)
> >
> > You mean that crazy song actually works?? LOL!
> >
> > This thread has covered a lot of ground from where it started to
> > where it is now. Interesting. Interesting last few posts from you
> > too, and nicely put, both sides of the coin, the bright and the dark.
> > One side of a coin doesn't buy you much, does it, you have to use the
> > whole coin.
> >
> > Namaste.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Keith Addison"
> >><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: <<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> >>Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:38 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense
> >>
> >> > Hi Mike
> >> >
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From:
> >><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mark>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mark
> >>manchester
> >> >>To:
> >><<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org>mai
> >>lto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >> >>Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 4:22 PM
> >> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense
> >> >>
> >> >>Hi Jesse...thanks for writing. You wrote: This is surely the most
> >> >>depressing post I've ever seen.  A sign of the times???  You
> >> >>wrote: Mike!  What sort of response were you thinking you'd get?  I
> >> >>wasn't thinking, at least about what response I might get.  I felt
> >> >>frustrated, perhaps mostly by my own illusions.  You wrote: How can
> >> >>anyone respond to this.  One way is how you have responded. You
> >> >>wrote:  No dream no agriculture no biodiesel no...  simple
> >> >>answer.  It depends on the question.  For me in my post the question
> >> >>deals with how do I personally deal with the madness on the
> >> >>planet that appears to be becoming more so everyday.  Biodiesel is a
> >> >>way.  And I'm excited to see it develop.  But I feel overwhelmed by
> >> >>something much bigger.  I could call it Big Energy, Big Gov't.  Big
> >> >>whatever.  But I'm afraid it has something more to do with me than
> >> >>with anything outside of me.  But then it's not just me...it's the
> >> >>sheer size and weight of humanity on the planet (and growing growing
> >> >>growing).
> >> >
> >> > Plenty of room to spare, no room for dogs in the manger.
> >> >
> >> >>So I could do as you said:   Leave!!   But you and I both know
> >> >>it isn't that simple.  For you it is your reasons.  For me, I'll try
> >> >>to explain in answer to your question: What are you there for?
> >> >> Jesse  I've thought about writing to Keith personally and asking
> >> >>him to remove me from the List since my original intention of
> >> >>joining the List has changed.
> >> >
> >> > You're welcome to change your intentions. It's not like a contract
> >> > you're not allowed to break or something. A lot of people like the
> >> > diversity of the list. There are these message snippets from various
> >> > members at the website list subscription section, for instance:
> >> >
> >> > - "I came to the list strictly interested in getting my biodiesel
> >> > project off the ground. Following the various postings I have
> >> > discovered that I see the world as if from the bottom of a well. The
> >> > view is expanding ever so slightly, ever so slowly. Thanks to all."
> >> >
> >> > - "The Biofuel list has awakened me to many ways I can directly help
> >> > make a difference. The knowledge I have gained from reading the list
> >> > in a few short months has encouraged me to try again."
> >> >
> >> > - "I benefit very much personally from the list, and I have yet to
> >> > make one drop of biofuel! But the insights that I get from the list
> >> > are amazing."
> >> >
> >> > - "I like the global view. It's good to have your beliefs challenged."
> >> >
> >> > - "This list has proven to me how little I know, so many times."
> >> >
> >> > The only time I'd remove you is if your intentions changed to those
> >> > of a dog in the manger and you couldn't be reasoned with.
> >> >
> >> > Otherwise, if you want out, you'd have to do it yourself, it's none
> >> > of my business.
> >> >
> >> > I guess this is the background to the way the list runs, have a look,
> >> > it might hearten you:
> >> >
> >><http://journeytoforever.org/community.html#credo>http://journeytofore
> >>ver.org/community.html#credo
> >> >
> >> >>I came here with the intention of learning how to make biodiesel and
> >> >>having a support group while doing so.  I have since decided for a
> >> >>multitude of reasons to not go this path.  But the List, as you
> >> >>know, is about more than just biodiesel.  It is...hmm...well, I
> >> >>guess that depends on who you are and I am and any one of us is and
> >> >>especially who Keith lets it be.
> >> >
> >> > It has a mind of its own. I'm just the skivvy.
> >> >
> >> >>So I haven't written to Keith, because for me, what I have observed
> >> >>and come to look for in my email, is someone else trying, just like
> >> >>me, to survive the madness...not to Leave!!...but to Live!!!  Or
> >> >>maybe I misjudged what I have been reading.
> >> >
> >> > I don't think so. I do think there are better options around than
> >> > just surviving it though.
> >> >
> >> >>Consequently, if this List is not the place for me to have expressed
> >> >>what I have how I have, then it isn't.
> >> >
> >> > Some might think it is, some might think it isn't, but if you think
> >> > it's the place then it is the place, just as long as you're not being
> >> > a dog in the manger.
> >> >
> >> >>     Ah well, the glaciers are fading (check out pics in June,
> >> >>2006, Men's Journal...staggering...we're fried folks!)
> >> >
> >> > Too soon to tell. Definitely not too early to be wide awake and up
> >> > and doing about it though, among other things. A lot of people think
> >> > the Biofuel list is the right place for that too.
> >> >
> >> >> as the planet heats up, BushCo not only not helpful but profoundly
> >> >>hurtful, US debt and the decline of the US dollar are poised to
> >> >>reveal to Americans the slaves all of us really are, even as jobs
> >> >>are disappearing for many here to many, many more Wall Street will
> >> >>pay less (actually the same according to some variations of the
> >> >>SOLVE act if it is passed) and conscript into its Death Machine, etc
> >> >>etc etc, apparently AD INFINITUM.  So let me tell ya...I'm smilin
> >> >>babeee...I mean "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel
> >> >>fine...."  Toto?!! Toto?!! Oh TOTO!!!!  "And I feel fine..."
> >> >
> >> > Once again, all together now, women and children first, just follow me:
> >> >
> >> > uh-one, uh-two, uh-one, two, three four...
> >> >
> >> > ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE - TA-DUM, TA-DUM TA-DUM TA-DUM.
> >> >
> >> >
> >><http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamm3u.m3u?id=720675&q=lo>http://ww
> >>w.soundclick.com/util/streamm3u.m3u?id=720675&q=lo
> >> >
> >> >
> >><http://www.thebards.net/music/lyrics/Always_Look_Bright_Side_Life.sht
> >>ml>http://www.thebards.net/music/lyrics/Always_Look_Bright_Side_Life.s
> >>html
> >> > Always Look On the Bright Side of Life (from Monty Python's Life of
> >> > Brian)
> >> >
> >> > Best
> >> >
> >> > Keith
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>     Mike DuPree
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>From: "M&K DuPree"
> >><<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>unflower.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>Reply-To:
> >><<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org>mai
> >>lto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >> >>Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:30:57 -0500
> >> >>To: <<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> >> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Hi D and List...Looking forward to watching What The Bleep Do We
> >> >>Know?  Checked out the website, synopsis, and trailer.  Wow.  Thanks
> >> >>D.
> >> >>    Big Energy, Big Government, Big Religion, Big Bad...why do I
> >> >>feel so sad?  Just ain't no hope for the little guy...probably never
> >> >>was.  David vs Goliath just another fairy tale.  "I HAVE A DREAM..."
> >> >> Sorry pops, just a dream.  The mountain of insolvency just too Big
> >> >>too overcome.  "Dang me, dang me, guess I'll take a rope and hang
> >> >>me."  No hope anywhere...oh!...build myself a biodiesel plant...but
> >> >>wait...my neighbor's doin same.  Last one to the WVO loses!!!
> >> >> Another dream defiled.  Where's my bicycle...gotta be a problem
> >> >>there too...frame made in China???  Go buy some food...too stupid,
> >> >>poor, lazy, or just simply born at the wrong time in the wrong place
> >> >>to grow my own, to say nothing of the locust invasion last year that
> >> >>kept me out of the fields and meant me needing to buy from who knows
> >> >>where on the planet...DANG ME!!!!  What a rotten Reality.  Oh, I
> >> >>see, not supposed to SEE...just dream..."Imagine"...and take four
> >> >>bullets in the back.  Lovely.  Good morning, WORLD!!! I LOVE YOU!!!
> >> >>PEACE!!! Hey, give me back the shirt off my back.  Ah well...takin
> >> >>my can of worms and goin fishin in that polluted water over
> >> >>there...and dream...with my gun by my side.  Mike DuPree
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From: D. Mindock
> >><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>To: <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >> >>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:52 AM
> >> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water
> >> >>
> >> >>Mike,
> >> >>   Just want to add my 2 cents on this subject. If BlackLight, or
> >> >>anyone else, comes up
> >> >>with a solid system to create vast amounts of energy from
> >> >>water/hydrogen, it will be
> >> >>snatched up by Big Energy and then controlled by them. Not much will
> >> >>change. Our
> >> >>monthly energy bills won't go away.
> >> >> I think we can rely on the gov to allow Big Energy to parcel out
> >> >>energy to we wee folks and keep their
> >> >>profits in the 100's of billions of dollars per year. Congress
> >> >>writes the laws that Big Energy dictates.
> >> >>It is Big Energy that is gluttonous.
> >> >>  The masses are bombarded with propaganda and hardly realize how
> >> >>they're all being manipulated.
> >> >>I am still waking up from this soup of B.S. we've been immersed in
> >> >>here in the U$A.
> >> >>Peace to all, D. Mindock   P.S. I agree that we are all
> >> >>inter-connected, more than we can imagine.
> >> >>I saw the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?" a couple years ago, and
> >> >>nothing's been the same
> >> >>since.
> >> >>
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From: M&K DuPree
> >><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>To: <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >> >>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:28 PM
> >> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks Bob...it's all new to me, and I'm thankful I have the List to
> >> >>present my inquiries.  PS You noted earlier and Joe Street agreed,
> >> >>"In my mind, infinite energy is the worst case scenario I can think
> >> >>of- energy to spare, energy to drive the gluttonous behavior of
> >> >>everybody on the planet.  NO THANKS"  LOL...well...yes, I kind of
> >> >>agree, because I know way too many fatheads who would take advantage
> >> >>of ulimited energy in just such a manner.  But then I also disagree.
> >> >> What WOULD unlimited energy mean for the planet and its' peoples???
> >> >> To me, that question seems to point to a question of human nature,
> >> >>which your statement indicates you believe is utterly without hope
> >> >>for a true social consciousness and conscience.  Maybe you disagree,
> >> >>but I'm just citing your words.  Contrarily, I witness something
> >> >>very different present.  Please hang with me for a moment while I
> >> >>try to explain.  "Independence" is an illusion.  Let me say that
> >> >>again, "Independence" is an illusion.  I recognize "individuality,"
> >> >>but "independence"...NOT!!!!  Every individual one of us is part of
> >> >>the same planet and ultimately the ever changing universe.  This is
> >> >>the truth; this is true.  More specifically, we each breathe the
> >> >>same air, drink the same water, eat the same dirt, at least as
> >> >>concerns the source.  But it doesn't look, feel, taste, etc, that
> >> >>way because we each receive a modification of the source.  Some get
> >> >>more of the source than others.  Some get better quality of the
> >> >>source than others.  Enter politics.  Enter religion.  Enter
> >> >>whatever enters to confound each one's sense of their connection to
> >> >>the same source and thereby to each other, the planet, LIFE.  So, so
> >> >>what???  Who cares?  Good question.  So what if we are all
> >> >>individuals inherently connected to each other?  How does that
> >> >>change all or even any of us from being "gluttonous" at heart???  I
> >> >>suppose in one way it doesn't, because LIFE, being so full of
> >> >>itself, of ONLY itself, must necessarily be "gluttonous."  Don't
> >> >>tell me there is LIFE opposed to death....NOT.  There appears to be
> >> >>birth and death (technically, birthing and deathing intertwined as
> >> >>the same thinging...lol....which is LIFE)....but LIFE remains and
> >> >>will remain...FOREVER.  It must, otherwise, I couldn't be and you
> >> >>couldn't be and no one could be.  Some thing does NOT come from no
> >> >>thing.  In fact, there is NOT any THING; there is only somethinging.
> >> >> Still with me??? lol  Consequently, I guess in my heart of hearts I
> >> >>have to agree with Alfred E. Newman, "What? Me worry?"  No, I don't
> >> >>like getting dicked around or worse, but it happens, as much because
> >> >>of people having an incredibly narrow perspective on their lives.
> >> >> So they get "gluttonous."  Not "everybody," however.  Whether or
> >> >>not they are, however, it seems to me an unlimted source of energy
> >> >>would have the very opposite reaction...rather than more gluttony, I
> >> >>believe we would see more feeling of and acting upon concern for
> >> >>each other, if for no other reason than LIFE would have a better
> >> >>chance on a more widely accepted level to be viewed more as it is
> >> >>than as the politicians and priests are able now to construe it as
> >> >>something limited.  Anyway, I'm sure everything I've written here
> >> >>can come under the severest attack.  This List is a wonderful place
> >> >>to help keep a guy honest and precise with his words.  I've tried to
> >> >>do that, and I'm sure the LIST will help me do that better.  We're
> >> >>all on a JourneyToForever, and the best any of us can do, it seems
> >> >>to me, is to be here to help ease the pain of our individuality a
> >> >>little or a lot.  Each of us must discover that for him or herself.
> >> >> Mike DuPree


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