>Will this kill the bugs busy eating away my precious grape vines and 
>shade area without harming the vine. That is used tobacco and some 
>soap liquid mixed with water and pump it from a hand sprayer? Got 
>sunlight soap here for the dishes, lemon scent even.
>
>Summary.
>1/  1 gallon of water/juice extracted from cigarette butts.
>2/  1 cup of liquid soap normally used for dishes.
>3/  Mix, strain and spray on my grape vine.
>4/  Do not do this in the kitchen with other cooks present.
>
>Doug

Nicotine will kill everything else too, including the bugs that eat 
the bugs eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though.

Best

Keith


>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Fred Finch
>To: <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic
>
>Jim,
>
>Instead of ammonia, get a pack of chewing tobacco.  Soak it in a 
>gallon of water for a day in the sun.  Strain the tobacco out and 
>then add the dish soap.  Spray it on the buggies.  The nicotine is 
>absorbed into the little critters and they die.  The plants don't 
>care either way about the stuff.  I do this on the roses that I 
>have.  Works great.
>
>Another thing that I have done is grabbed the coffee can of butts 
>that my nieghbor had.  He thinks I am nutz anyway but the look on 
>his face when I asked him for them was priceless.  I soaked that for 
>a day then strained that.  Worked as well as the chewing tobacco and 
>was free.  Smelled nasty but did the trick just the same.
>
>fred
>
>On 6/18/06, JJJN <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Robert,
>I was told that if you take one cup Lemon dish soap and mix with one cup
>lemon ammonia and spray like you would with a pesticide bottle that you
>hook on the end of a garden hose.  At first I thought the idea sounded
>good but then what is in all that stuff? and if it kills the bad guys
>whats it doing to the good ones. Have you heard of this? What do you
>think?  I tested a tiny bit on some catipillers and it sure killed them
>and quick, but again that would not be the entire goal if the product
>screws up 10 other cycles to do so. I wish I knew more about bugs.  I
>suppose you may have some luck if you can apply it in a way that was to
>the single point missing everything else.
>Jim
>
>robert and benita rabello wrote:
>
> >Chris Lloyd wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got caught
> >>out this year with the half ton I got for growing tomatoes in. It was
> >>supposed to be composted household waste and tree leaves, looked 
>good, smelt
> >>good and will probably make a good soil improver but I had to start adding
> >>chicken poo to save the tomatoes. Perhaps the nutrients got 
>washed out of it
> >>but I'm going back to rotted horse manure next year.   Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >    I've found that the commercial composts are sterilized with heat to
> >kill weed seeds.  This also kills all of the soil fauna, which is
> >responsible for fertility.  I made that mistake once, and since then
> >I've relied on my own compost.  My trees are happier (though I'm STILL
> >have insect and fruit problems) and look far more lush than they have in
> >the past.
> >
> >
> >robert luis rabello
> >"The Edge of Justice"
> >Adventure for Your Mind
> ><http://www.newadventure.ca> http://www.newadventure.ca
> >
> >Ranger Supercharger Project Page
> ><http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/>http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/


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