When we first started hearing about Hydrogen, there had been relatively little research done on the difficulties that we are faced with when considering Hydrogen. Since then, there have been remarkable discoveries in the use of catalysts for brreaking the water molecule that assist in providing more "bang for the buck". This reduces some of "the energy in vs. the energy out" equation, which still isn't as energy effective as fuels for which we already have infrastructure in place.
I think nuclear has its place. And if you look up on a sunny day, you'll see the place I'm talking about. I feel that there will likely be some "thinking outside the box" discoveries (or in some cases, old ideas revisited) that will enable a more efficient conversion from solar nuclear to a transportable fuel in the future. To my way of thinking, biofuels are a stepping stone out of the stone age, where we will no longer depend on combustion for travel. A hundred years from now, our current hopes and designs for Hydrogen will probably be seen as yet another of those stepping stones to an efficient transportation system that doesn't leave behind toxins that generations for the rest of time will bear the consequences of. One of the cleanest and most effective transformations I can think of between the solar nuclear source, and the transportable fuel we use is photosynthesis, and nature has experience doing this... "Waste" products are used and recycled in the natural cycle. Imagine if we could duplicate the process... Carbon dioxide and water go in, solar energy is applied, and hydrocarbons and oxygen come out. Someone will figure it out, probably even get a patent on something nature has been doing forever, a tree in your front yard will be seen as a patent infringement... LOL doug swanson chem.dd wrote: >I would think this is the ideal forum for discussing any aspects and options >for reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, particularly in terms of >sustainability. What is truly sad is closed mindedness. >David >----- Original Message ----- >From: "robert and benita rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:33 AM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring > > > > >>chem.dd wrote: >> >> >> >>>The bottom line is that the world has to go Hydrogen. >>> >>> >>> >> Are you SURE you want to go there in this forum? I'd be laughing if >>your proposition wasn't so sad. >> >>robert luis rabello >>"The Edge of Justice" >>Adventure for Your Mind >>http://www.newadventure.ca >> >>Ranger Supercharger Project Page >>http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> >> >messages): > > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. No Microsoft databits have been incorporated herein. All existing databits have been constructed from recycled databits. _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
