Howdy Joe, Mike, et al

Joe Street wrote:
> Hi Mike;
> 
> There is a part of me ( the part I like to think is wise) that tends to 
> trust what comes out of mother nature's laboratory much more than the 
> industrial product. This is why I use butter not margarine. 

better the devil you know than the devil you don't know? (butter, 
saturated fat and cholesterol vs margarine, trans fats)

This is why
> I prefer herbs over medicines

most medicines are herbs, or modeled after them and are purer and more 
predictable, with known side effects, at least after time to 
accumulate statistically relevant data.   The problems with herbs as I 
see it is two fold- frequently there is a lack of proven efficacy and 
secondly, dosage is unclear.  Amounts of efficacious agents varies 
from species to species and even plant to plant depending on where/how 
it is grown.



  and organic foods over factory.

agreed, with the exception of "factory Organic"  ala recent spinach issue

This voice
> is always whispering that the more raw something is, the closer it is to 
> it's natural state, the better.  This voice tells that the converse, the 
> more refined anything is, the more goodness has been stripped away and 
> the more unhealthy in terms of preservatives and traces of processing 
> steps are left behind in the product.

processing is relative.  Cassava is dangerously poisonous without 
processing


  I, like some others, confound
> myself at times with doublethink on this front however.  For example 
> water purified by reverse osmosis  definitely is free of VOC's and 
> chlorine, flourine etc but so are the minerals removed and drinking 
> highly purified water can leach minerals from the body.  So I stuggle to 
> understand where the correct balance is at times. 

  we all struggle- nobody said life was easy

  Bottled spring water
> can contain higher than the municipal level of heavy metals.  I have 
> wondered about natural salt deposits in this regard although I admit I 
> have been lazy about doing my homework and looking for an assay on 
> alternative salt products. 

as far as I am aware there is no such thing as unnatural salt.


  I was told that iodine was added to salt
> because there were many more cases of thyroid problems in the population 
> before this was done 

iodination of salt began in earnest in the great lakes regions where 
the available salt had particularly low levels of iodine.  See info on 
the "goiter belt"

http://www3.uakron.edu/mmlab/dose/dose1_10.htm



(unless this is disinformation and I am to learn
> that it aint so and it was just a way to unload iodine from some excess 
> industrial process on an unsuspecting population vis the flouride scene 
> with toothpaste and city water)  It is often hard to know who or what to 
> believe unless it is right in your area of knowledge. All I can hope to 
> do is fight laziness and keep looking for information.  This list is a 
> goldmine in this regard and I can never give enough thanks for all I 
> have learned from all the contibuting members here.
> BTW the sea salt I use doesn't pour well. 

pure salt, as well as salt without a desiccant clumps up in humid 
climates (it is hygroscopic)  Hence Sodium alumino silicate or a 
similar desiccant is added.  Mortons has advertised this property for 
years-when it rains it pours.


  I regard this as
> encouraging.  What have 'they' done to regular table salt to make it run 
> so easily hmmm? I wonder.
> 
> Joe
> 
> M&K DuPree wrote:
>> Hi Bob and List...I don't know.  But I wish I could know all the time 
>> what is right and what is wrong, what is on one side and what is on 
>> another, whether or not there really is one side or another, but I 
>> don't know, the lines between this and that oftentimes become 
>> obscure.  Maybe we should vaccinate, maybe we shouldn't.  Maybe hell 
>> is freezing over, maybe it isn't.  I don't know. 
>>      I do know this, however, I have no one to blame but myself.  I'm 
>> not sure I can say the same for anyone else, because it's really none 
>> of my business, but this is true for me--I have no one to blame but 
>> myself.  And it is this that I seek for everyone, that they are able 
>> to one day and forever thereafter accept and say the same thing for 
>> him/her self.  Why?  I can't answer that for you.  So it's for me to 
>> know and you to find out...for yourself.  I can see you are trying, 
>> just like others are trying too.  And this is where I hope we of this 
>> List can all find peace with each other, that each of us is trying in 
>> his or her own way to take responsibility for oneself, to have no one 
>> to blame but ourself.
>>      Maybe we should be trying to understand each other better.  And 
>> when we don't agree, rather than throw ridicule at each other, stop 
>> and ask a question.  I don't know.  Maybe the path of ridicule, 
>> conjecture, leads to personal responsibility.  Maybe. 
>>      Anyway, there's so much that goes on here that is worthy of being 
>> labeled of real WORTH.  Maybe it's the freedom to ridicule too.  Ok. 
>>      Ah well...it's a beautiful day here today...perfect temperature, 
>> sunshine and a breeze--for breakfast outside with the flys.
>>      Mike DuPree   
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "bob allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:23 AM
>> Subject: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt
>>
>> > http://www.mercola.com/forms/salt.htm
>> >
>> > and what a deal, only 7.95 usd (plus shipping and handling) for 4 
>> ounces.
>> >
>> >
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