Reprinted from Pharmacology Biochemistry & Behavior, v. 21, Suppl., 1, by A. Keith Brewer, Ph.D.," The High pH Therapy for Cancer, Tests on Mice and Humans," pp. 1-5, Copyright 1984, with permission from Elsevier Science. Single copies of the article can be downloaded and printed for the reader's personal research and study.

BREWER, A. K. The high pH therapy for cancer tests on mice and humans. PHARMACOL BIOCHEM BEHAV 21: Suppl. 1, 1-5. 1984.---Mass spectrographic and isotope studies have shown that potassium, rubidium, and especially cesium are most efficiently taken up by cancer cells. This uptake was enhanced by Vitamins A and C as well as salts of zinc and selenium. The quantity of cesium taken up was sufficient to raise the cell to the 8 pH range. Where cell mitosis ceases and the life of the cell is short. Tests on mice fed cesium and rubidium showed marked shrinkage in the tumor masses within 2 weeks. In addition, the mice showed none of the side effects of cancer. Tests have been carried out on over 30 humans. [Please note: these tests were not conducted by Dr. Brewer.] In each case the tumor masses disappeared. Also all pains and effects associated with cancer disappeared within 12 to 36 hr; the more chemotherapy and morphine the patient had taken, the longer the withdrawal period. Studies of the food intake in areas where the incidences of cancer are very low showed that it met the requirements for the high pH therapy.

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As for the American Cancer Society page about cesium chloride it no longer states 150 grams as ld50 for a human. It is now more technically written.
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Cesium_Chloride.asp?sitearea=ETO

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Homeopathy is a minor part of alternative medicine and not espoused by many alternative physicians. I think naturopathy is the actual medicine we had prior to Rockefeller - pharma corporations and pharma grants to pharma doctoring schools. So you are being glib at best.

Kirk

bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kirk McLoren wrote:
> No - the beta carotene is water soluble.

want to bet? I guess you wouldn't trust me, but regardless, I worked
with the stuff last spring, I had a student examine the UV spectra of
beta carotene (dissolved in benzene) vs the spectrum of red palm oil.
the are essentially identical. the point is I know that the stuff
water insoluble. Just look at the chemical structure- its a
hydrocarbon.
------------------------
BETA-CAROTENE
SOLUBILITY IN WATER, insoluble. pH. VAPOR DENSITY. REFRACTIVE INDEX
... One molecule of beta-carotene splits into two molecules of vitamin
A and thus ...
www.chemicalland21.com/lifescience/foco/BETA-CAROTENE.htm - 65k -
Cached - Similar pages
--------------------------------

now you find me a citation where it says the stuff is water soluble.

The premise is the body wont
> make a toxic level of vitamin A from it.
> As for quack watch they are a bunch of quacks. Good god Bob what do you
> expect a bunch of allopaths to say about non allopathic medicine?

ah yes, allopathy, otherwise known as science-based medicine vs
homeopathy, otherwise known as nonsense.

It
> will be a cold day in hell when they give an unprejudiced report. Our
> metasticised cancer cure rate is no better than before -- after 30 years
> of "war on cancer" The only improvement the allopaths have is earlier
> detection.

do you have a reference for that statistic? Is it from the same
source that informed you about the solubility of beta carotene? I do
know that for most cancers both morbidity and mortality are both down
over the last 30 yrs.

see the rather extensive files available at

http://www.cancer.gov/statistics/

And we are to bend our knee and kiss their ring? I think not.

just you kirk, not me. ;->

>
> As for non Harvard data base modalities the cesium chloride mouse study
> was interesting yet all we see is is the American Cancer Society warning
> about toxicity.

you lost me here, direct me to a reference to the CsCl study

The master poisoners - and that is what chemotherapy

um, this would be ad hominem by proxy attack?
is
> - discourage cesium because the ld50 is 160 grams or thereabouts.

the simplest probe of toxicity is LD50 usually expressed as mass/unit
body wt. You gave me a number that is undefined. From the literature
one finds:

Oral rat LD50: 2004 mg/kg. Oral mouse LD50: 2306 mg/kg. Investigated
as a mutagen and reproductive effector.

> I'm curious Bob what the ld50 for NaCl is.

ORL-RAT LD50 3000 mg kg-1 this stuff is really easy to get kirk, I
send my students to the literature every day for toxicological data

I think 160 grams of table
> salt could be quite an ordeal.
> So the ACS hype is just that perhaps. The university study claimed
> remission in 97% of the mice if I recall correctly. So where is the
> double blind study?
>
> LEF hosts the federal paper.

Not their work - and the study was vitamin
> A not beta carotene.
> LEF is a good resource. They have a lot of interesting papers.
>
> Kirk
>
> */bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
> Kirk McLoren wrote:
> > Actually the carrot contains beta carotene
>
> yes of course, and it is what makes "red palm oil" red.
>
>
> which is used in the body to
> > make vitamin A. It is water soluble
>
> no kirk, not that it matters here but it is one of the fat soluble
> vitamins. It is stored in the liver of many animals.
>
>
> and Lorraine Day MD took enough to
> > turn herself orange. She believed it helped her overcome breast
> cancer.
>
> actually there is no evidence that it was cancer. from quackwatch.com
>
> Lorraine Day, M.D., would like you to believe that she has discovered
> the answer to cancer and that her experience as a patient qualifies
> her to give advice about cancer. She warns against trusting the
> medical profession and claims that all drugs can cause cancer. Her
> videotapes state (falsely) that standard cancer treatment has never
> cured anyone and that nobody should undergo chemotherapy and radiation
> for any cancer. She speaks eloquently and from the heart, but her
> tapes are filled with factual errors and far-fetched claims. I believe
> that her advice is untrustworthy and dangerous to the extent that it
> steers people away from effective treatment.
>
> The centerpiece of Day's story is that she cured herself of a
> grapefruit-sized lump that she says was a recurrence of her breast
> cancer. But she has refused to disclose any medical records that would
> confirm that the mass was cancer (rather than a cyst)
>
>
> > The use of 100,000 units of A a day recovered 30% of lost lung
> function
> > in a Federal study (patients had emphysema)
>
> > see lef.org for a copy of the paper.
>
> lef.org better update their files before they hurt someone. One study
> employing beta carotene(20 mg/day) was cut short when it was realized
> that:
>
>
> ATBC researchers reported that men who took beta-carotene had an
> 18 percent increased incidence of lung cancers and an 8 percent
> increased overall mortality. Vitamin E had no effect on lung cancer
> incidence or overall mortality. The men taking both supplements had
> outcomes similar to those taking beta-carotene alone
>
> (New England Journal of Medicine 1994;330:1029)
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Kirk
> >
> > */bob allen /* wrote:
> >
> > D. Mindock wrote:
> > > There have been a considerable number of studies on herbs. It is
> > a myth that
> > > herbs haven't
> > > been studied. BTW, an herb is any plant that has
> > > special properties. A carrot might be called an herb since it
> > helps the
> > > eyes.
> >
> >
> > your example is proving one of my points. you cant necessarily trust
> > traditional wisdom. Further confounding things is that not only is
> > vitamin A essential in small amounts, it is both toxic and
> teratogenic
> > at higher concentrations. There is enough Vit. A in a polar bear
> > liver to kill a person, and there are documented cases of fishermen
> > you became violently ill from consuming certain fish livers such as
> > halibut.
> >
> > http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/carrots.asp
> >
> > Claim: Eating carrots results in improved vision.
> >
> > Status: False.
> >
> >
> > your example is proving one of my points. you cant necessarily trust
> > traditional wisdom. Further confounding things is that not only is
> > vitamin A essential in small amounts, it is both toxic and
> teratogenic
> > at higher concentrations. There is enough Vit. A in a polar bear
> > liver to kill a person, and there are documented cases of fishermen
> > you became violently ill from consuming certain fish livers such as
> > halibut.
> >
> > If thing were so simple as natural is safe and good and synthetic is
> > bad...
> >
> > Strawberries slow
> > > down cancer.
> >
> > I.E., they have medicinal properties. Big Pharma will study an
> > > herb to pick out those chemicals that have the properties they're
> > looking
> > > for. E.g., Cat's Claw (graviola is another) is believed to have
> > anti-cancer
> > > properties. So a drug company will look for what they believe
> is the
> > > "active" ingredient and find the chemical analogue.
> >
> > I am not well versed in chemical patent law but I think you are
> > oversimplifying here. Generally the reason companies look for analogs
> > is to find better efficacy, lowered side effects, simpler structures
> > which lend themselves to production, or any combination thereof.
> >
> >
> > Merely extracting the
> > > active ingredient will not allow the patenting of it. But the
> > man-made
> > > analogue of it will. So they test the analogue and then submit it
> > to the FDA
> > > for its test. 200 million dollars is the figure
> > > I have heard that this test costs. So, the ability to get a
> > patent on a
> > > synthetic analogue is what gives Big Pharma
> > > the leverage to make billions on just one new drug. The markup on
> > a drug is
> > > sometimes as high as
> > > 50,000%, making drug manufacturing obscenely lucrative. The ones
> > that bomb,
> > > like Vioxx, are just the
> > > cost of doing business. With the huge markups and huge profits
> comes
> > > political power, unfortunately for us
> > > all.
> >
> > no argument there
> >
> > > Peace, D. Mindock
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe Street"
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:27 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] amazing himalayan salt
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> > >
> > >> Hey Bob;
> > >>
> > >> Again, follow the money. Where is the funding going to come
> from to
> > >> test the efficacy of something anyone can grow and pick
> themselves.
> > >> Drug companies are loathe to spend a dime on any testing unless
> > they are
> > >> forced to do so by the regulating bodies. They sure as hell
> > aren't going
> > >> to waste that dime on something they can't control or sell.
> > >>
> > >> Joe
> > >>
> > >> bob allen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> snip
> > >>
> > >>> The
> > >>> problem with herbs is, as I have said before, there is little
> to no
> > >>> proof of efficacy for the vast majority of them. I not saying
> they
> > >>> don't work, I am just saying that scientific evidence for
> > efficacy is
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