Mike, Keith, Amen.
Ps. We all form opinions based on our experiences. These often lead to folly but just as often they can steer us in a good direction as well. One of the reasons we have so little hard evidence on many of these matters is there are only a few studies on health and nutrition vs. the reams done on sickness. (as Keith mentioned) I must agree that testimonials are worthless when sources are narrow, but when they come from voluntary non commercial separate sources from all over the world,- well - Where there is smoke is there not often Fire? My best to all, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia WasTestimonials as Evidence) > From the can't-help-but-stick-my-toe-in dept. > > Caveat: No proof other than what I've read over the years. > > It has always seemed to me that the maladies that people suffer from are > in large part due to environment/lifestyle. In the third world, > disease is far more likely to be as a result of the lack of food and > adequate nutrition, wheras in the developed world, we suffer from the > diseaeses of affluence: diabetis being the one that comes to mind, > along with obesity-related ailments such as heart disease, high blood > pressure, strokes and so on. Smoking is another factor. > > Another interesting item, from Harvard University's website: > > In particular, these studies suggest that high calcium intake doesn't > actually appear to lower a person's risk for osteoporosis. For example, > in the large Harvard studies of male health professionals and female > nurses, individuals who drank one glass of milk (or less) per week were > at no greater risk of breaking a hip or forearm than were those who > drank two or more glasses per week.(2, 3 > <http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium.html#references>) > Other studies have found similar results. > > It is odd human beings are the only animal that develop "a disease" if > they don't eat the milk of another species. Dogs don't need cat milk. > > bob allen wrote: > > >Howdy Terry, > > > >Terry Dyck wrote: > > > > > >>HI Bob, > >> > >>The Western world has the highest rate of Cancer, Heart disease, > >>Diabetes, > >>Respiratory problems and other ailments in the world. > >> > >> > > > >oh really, and your source for these "facts" is? are the data age > >adjusted, etc. and just what "other" ailments are included. This is the > >issue I have with you and others, you make what I feel are overly broad > >statements as fact, without little or no support. So give me > >reference or two so I can draw my own conclusions. > > > >or how about just statistic at a time to discuss. How about age > >adjusted cancer rates? (age adjusting is necessary as cancer is > >essentially inevitable, the longer you live the more likely you are to > >get cancer. > > > > > > show me the data please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On the other hand > >>there is a valley in the middle of the Himalayan mountains called > >>Hunzaland > >>that is an almost disease free area. > >> > >> > >I have heard this canard before. I googled hunzaland and about the only > >thing I got were people hawking their particular "cure" > > > > The Apricot Kernel Anti-Cancer Theory > > http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/land_of_hunza.htm > > > >or how about 160+ year olds > >http://www.arthritis-nature-cure.com/people.htm > > > >do really believe that? really, you don't think someone could be less > >than forthright to make a point about a product the promote? > > > >or maybe it's the magnetized water > >http://www.stopcancer.com/magnetpHFoundation2.htm > > > > > > > >> A pure organic food diet and almost no > >>pollution could be the reason for people having good health. > >> > >> > >> > >or it could all be a bunch of hype. How do we know with out better > >documentation? > > > > > > > > > >>>-- > >>>Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob > >>>========================================================= > >>>The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in > >>>moral philosophy; that is, > >>>the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Biofuel mailing list > >>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >>> > >>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >>> > >>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > >>>messages): > >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Biofuel mailing list > >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > >messages): > >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
