Just don't use off road ( red) #1 or #2. less than 1% will result in a dark pink color for the entire batch. If #2 ULSD were used, you would gain a few btu's.
----- Original Message ----- From: JAMES PHELPS<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol) Kerosene works. It is neutral in the reaction and can be separated later by freezing the bio. (If you would want to??) >From: "Thomas Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>> >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol) >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:16:39 -0500 > >Hello Ken, > Appreciate your input. > > (Just a quick summary in case anyone else is listening.) > > While denatured ethanol may be used on the premises where it was >produced, it must be denatured for transport or use in vehicles off >"premises". > > It seems that BD would not render the spirits "unfit for beverage >use", so the question remains: > Can ethanol be denatured and still be used to make ethyl esters? >(I don't see methanol on the list below, but it is my understanding that >methanol is the denaturant in "denatured ethanol" available in hardware >stores.) > Which of the following will have the least/no effect on the process >of making ethyl esters? > > A list of the approved denaturants from the section, "Authorized >Materials", ..... for making ethanol unfit for beverage use .... from the >(US) Code of Federal Regulations.) >Sec. 19.1005 Authorized materials. (a) General. The Director shall >determine and authorize for use materials for rendering spirits unfit for >beverage use which will not impair the quality of the spirits for fuel use. >Spirits treated under this section will be considered rendered unfit for >beverage use and eligible for withdrawal as fuel alcohol. (b) List. The >Director will compile and issue periodically a list of materials authorized >for rendering spirits unfit for beverage use. The list will specify for >each material (1) name and (2) quantity required to render spirits unfit >for beverage use. The list may be obtained at no cost upon request from the >ATF Distribution Center, 7943 Angus Court, Springfield, Virginia 22153. >(c) Authorized material. Until issuance of the initial list of materials >authorized for rendering spirits unfit for beverage use, proprietors are >authorized to add to each 100 gallons of spirits any of the following >materials in the quantities specified. (1) 2 gallons or more >of-- (i) Gasoline or automotive gasoline (for use in engines which >require unleaded gasoline Environmental Protection Agency and manufacturers >specifications may require that unleaded gasoline be used to render the >spirits unfit for beverage use). (ii) Kerosene, (iii) Deodorized >kerosene, (iv) Rubber hydrocarbon solvent, (v) Methyl isobutyl >ketone, (vi) Mixed isomers of nitropropane, (vii) Heptane, or, >(viii) Any combination of (i) through (vii); or (2) \1/8\ ounce of >denatonium benzoate N.F. and 2 gallons of isopropyl alcohol.(Sec. 232, Pub. >L. 96-223, 94 Stat. 278 (26 U.S.C. 5181))[T.D. ATF-198, 50 FR 8464, Mar. 1, >1985, as amended by T.D. ATF-249, 52 FR 5961, Feb. 27, 1987; T.D. ATF-442, >66 FR 12854, Mar. 1, 2001] Thanks, Tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken Provost > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol) > > > > > On Nov 26, 2006, at 7:47 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote: > > > > > The idea on denaturing the ethanol is to make it unsuitable for >drinking. > Would ~ 2% BD make it unsuitable for drinking? > > If not, couldn't it be denatured with methanol? > > > > > > > There are several levels of denaturing -- "fully denatured" needs to be > foul-tasting, not just poisonous. Biodiesel wouldn't qualify as either >:-) > > > Ethanol denatured only with methanol is considered only partially > denatured, and is still subject to restrictions and reporting. > > > -K > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html<http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html> > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/<http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/> > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org<http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html<http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/<http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/>
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