Actually Wes a heat pump ins a heat transport machine. The amount it transports
is proportional to the difference in temperature of the 2 coils. Source and
sink in other words. The amount they transport is compared to that amount of
heat produced in a resistor. If you think of it as a train carrying heat and
the difference in temperature the hill the train carries it over you can see
that the definition of standard conditions determines the theoretical COP. I
would have to look it up as I dont remember the conditions any more but I seem
to recall that a perfect machine would Have a COP of 12 or 13. A machine of 6
would be a pretty good compromise in materials as a machine to be perfect would
have huge heat exchangers and a monstrous compressor to keep mass velocities
low. At an arbitrarily small difference in temperature the ratio would of
course approach infinity. But it is just transporting heat.
A machine that actually worked without input of heat or mechanical; or
electrical work, or produced more work than was input would be an over unity
machine.
As an example think of a pipe with an osmotic membrane on one end - a reverse
osmosis membrane. As you inserted it into the ocean at some depth the pressure
would be adequate to cause pure water to flow into the pipe. Since sea water is
3% denser than fresh water at some depth the weight of the column of fresh
water and the required pressure to operate the membrane would be supplied by
the weight of the external salt water. At that point fresh water would flow out
the top of the pipe sans pump. That would be an over unity machine.
Kirk
Wes Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Robin,
As with all new applications to old concepts it is necessary to take time
for in-depth understanding of both old and new applications in order to form
a new qualified response.
I have been experimenting with this concept and made a few observations.
1, there seems to be a difference in the transfer of energy according to the
material used to suspend the pendulum. String, wire, or rope seems to absorb
some of the motive energy. I am presently using all thread rod.
2, you need more info on the individual pump he is using. Even if the pump
design calls for a 3" stroke, if it works with a 1/2" stroke because of an
inherent principle in the design, then so be it. You may have noticed this
if you have ever used an old homestead water pump.
3, the distance factor in transference of energy seems to bother so many
folks. I live in Canada, space just is not that crowded here! I have spent
a bit of time speaking with qualified minds about this project. I have
discovered that every thing this man is doing is easily explained by
physics. This does not preclude that he is using energy in a way that is
more efficient than other methods and therefore is putting in a certain
amount of energy and receiving 9 more units back.
This is not more astounding than the heat pump that heats my home. It is
giving me a COP of 5. This is documented by ASHRAE tech data that comes
with the unit. I have verified it with my amp meter. Heat pumps are
recognized to be over unity devices but it seems they have not been
criticized possibly because there is no obvious way to translate this energy
back to electricity.
4, researching this concept has led me to info that idicates by pulsing a DC
electric current at 10,000 to 20,000 hertz you give the energy a kick in the
pants allowing it to take advantage of motive force. This is seen in the
example of pushing a child on a swing.
5, it has helped me to understand how the new furnace fan motors operate
that work on DC current so much more efficiently. The DC motor comes with a
motor controller that is explained as a simple AC/DC convertor. However, at
trade shows they demonstrate the magic by connecting a small 9v battery just
like you would have in your smoke detector. They show this battery start
and operate the fan (they demonstrate only for a bit less than a minute of
course)
Wes
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From: R Pentney
Subject: [Biofuel] Pendulum
Pick up a 10 lb weight with a rope or chain and swing it so you can
feel the extra weight at the bottom of the swing. Now shorten the
rope by half and try it again. The impulse is less, of course much
faster reps and therefore the time during which the impulse is
applied is much less - therefore less work is done.
Now look again at his pictures. That pendulum has such a ridiculously
short length it cannot possibly pump water on its own. The impulse
time is too short to move the pump lever far enough.
Anybody care to try the math?
Robin
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