Hi Mike, The science which can not be argued with is that 40% more Co2 has accumulated in the atmosphere from the time that humans started burning fossil fuels. Also additional methane and other green house gases have entered the atmosphere. We know that some Co2 has to be in our atmosphere to keep the sun's heat from escaping into space, however, the extra Co2 is heating up our planet. Who could argue with that?
Terry Dyck >From: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: [Biofuel] [Fwd: Re: [Strawbale] Global warming] >Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:55:04 -0500 > >Interesting cross post from gasification. > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Global warming >Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:14:34 -0600 >From: David Neeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Ron Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: SB REPP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >I think it's interesting the amount of religious-like acceptance of >either a belief in human contribution to a supposed global warming, or >a rejection that such a thing is even happening at all. > >A very few years ago, there were serious scientific discussions and >popular magazine covers regarding global *cooling* and an "approaching >ice age." Now, the existence of global warming prompts "scientists" to >attempt to drum out of the corps of science those who dare question >the current cant--that "of course" we have global warming and "of >course" we humans are contributing to it. > >Best as I can tell, evidence on all sides is most definitely mixed. >There is a fairly good argument that cooling and warming trends have >existed since long before humans were around at all. > >Local weather conditions, too, are at best highly unreliable guides. >Some areas are "warming" while others have record snows (as in >Anchorage at the moment). > >Personally, the only thing I am convinced of is that change is >inevitable. I tend to think we've been in the rather balmy period >between ice ages and that sooner or later we are likely to have >another one. > >Interestingly enough, the geological record seems to indicate that >when an ice age comes upon the earth, we go from a climate similar to >ours now to ice covering a good part of the Northern and Southern >hemispheres in about fifty years--less than an eyeblink in geological >terms. > >To assert that "whose who question global warming have a financial or >personal interest in the status quo", though, is the height of >arrogance. I, for one, have no stake either financial or personal in >the issue beyond an obvious interest in trying to determine the truth >and the consequences it may present to me and my family. > >In the Dark Ages, the particular religious cant that could not be >questioned was the prevailing religious tenets that "everyone" >believed. Today, it seems to be global warming and its frequent >pseudo-scientific corollary that this is something that no serious >person can or should question. > >That, friends, is BS. The *first* tenet of science is that every >assertion can and must be questioned over and over again to find areas >in which it may lack in rigor and in which the notion may be refined >to more closely fit the observed facts. > >So--kindly don't try to enforce such claptrap upon me or upon anyone >who attempts to arrive over time at better approximations of the >truth. Trying to relegate us to motives that may be self-serving or >venal only goes so far, mostly upon the equally addle-pated that >ascribe evil motives to any who don't readily agree with whatever your >particular orthodoxy of the moment might be. > >David > > > >On 2/3/07, Ron Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ron > > Those who question global warming have a financial or emotional > > interest in the status quo. > >_______________________________________________ >Strawbale mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://listserv.repp.org/mailman/listinfo/strawbale_listserv.repp.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _________________________________________________________________ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805 _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
