Stuff&Nonsense, Yewdall. -Exxon
Zeke Yewdall wrote: > >To assert that "whose who question global warming have a financial or > >personal interest in the status quo", though, is the height of > >arrogance. I, for one, have no stake either financial or personal in >>the issue beyond an obvious interest in trying to determine the truth > >and the consequences it may present to me and my family. > > I guess that he doesn't buy fossil fuel generated electricity for his > house, doesn't drive a car, doesn't shop in any stores that sell goods > produced in factories, or transported to the store, doesn't heat his > house with carbon producing fuels, doesn't eat food produced on > factory farms, or transported to his house via vehicle. Good for him > that he has such a lifestyle that doesn't produce any carbon emissions. > > > On 2/3/07, *Mike Weaver* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Interesting cross post from gasification. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Strawbale] Global warming > Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:14:34 -0600 > From: David Neeley < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: Ron Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > CC: SB REPP <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > I think it's interesting the amount of religious-like acceptance of > either a belief in human contribution to a supposed global warming, or > a rejection that such a thing is even happening at all. > > A very few years ago, there were serious scientific discussions and > popular magazine covers regarding global *cooling* and an "approaching > ice age." Now, the existence of global warming prompts > "scientists" to > attempt to drum out of the corps of science those who dare question > the current cant--that "of course" we have global warming and "of > course" we humans are contributing to it. > > Best as I can tell, evidence on all sides is most definitely mixed. > There is a fairly good argument that cooling and warming trends have > existed since long before humans were around at all. > > Local weather conditions, too, are at best highly unreliable guides. > Some areas are "warming" while others have record snows (as in > Anchorage at the moment). > > Personally, the only thing I am convinced of is that change is > inevitable. I tend to think we've been in the rather balmy period > between ice ages and that sooner or later we are likely to have > another one. > > Interestingly enough, the geological record seems to indicate that > when an ice age comes upon the earth, we go from a climate similar to > ours now to ice covering a good part of the Northern and Southern > hemispheres in about fifty years--less than an eyeblink in geological > terms. > > To assert that "whose who question global warming have a financial or > personal interest in the status quo", though, is the height of > arrogance. I, for one, have no stake either financial or personal in > the issue beyond an obvious interest in trying to determine the truth > and the consequences it may present to me and my family. > > In the Dark Ages, the particular religious cant that could not be > questioned was the prevailing religious tenets that "everyone" > believed. Today, it seems to be global warming and its frequent > pseudo-scientific corollary that this is something that no serious > person can or should question. > > That, friends, is BS. The *first* tenet of science is that every > assertion can and must be questioned over and over again to find areas > in which it may lack in rigor and in which the notion may be refined > to more closely fit the observed facts. > > So--kindly don't try to enforce such claptrap upon me or upon anyone > who attempts to arrive over time at better approximations of the > truth. Trying to relegate us to motives that may be self-serving or > venal only goes so far, mostly upon the equally addle-pated that > ascribe evil motives to any who don't readily agree with whatever your > particular orthodoxy of the moment might be. > > David > > > > On 2/3/07, Ron Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > Ron > > Those who question global warming have a financial or emotional > > interest in the status quo. > > _______________________________________________ > Strawbale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://listserv.repp.org/mailman/listinfo/strawbale_listserv.repp.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
