And witness how our entertainment media is obsessed with violent and scandalous subject matter, our sports become increasingly violent and individual members of our society tend toward increasing levels of egocentricity and self indulgence. Didn' similar things happen in the times leading up to the collapse of previous empires?

Joe

D. Mindock wrote:

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A truly civilized country wouldn't need a Bill of Rights. But our Decider is trashing it anyway, along with the original document. The war on terrorism has rapidly devolved into a war onto the very things that are essential to a civilized country. I think we are back at the level of barbarism...

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