I can't quite remember the details any more, but I seem to remember that
they were in a pretty odd position beforehand, which prevented them from
being able to kill only a few hundred Europeans.  Jared Diamonds two books
"Guns, Germs, and Steel", and "Collapse" had lots of stuff -- but I just
don't recall the details any more.

Same think with the Roman empire -- technically it fell to the barbarians,
but only because it was almost ready to collapse already.

Z

On 2/15/07, Jason& Katie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 i thought the South American empires were wiped out by the europeans
before they had the chance to kill themselves off?

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*From:* Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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You mean the Roman Empire.   Or any of the south american ones.  Or.....


Nah, we are "civilized" now I tell you.  It could never happen to us.

Z

On 2/15/07, Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And witness how our entertainment media is obsessed with violent and
> scandalous subject matter, our sports become increasingly violent and
> individual members of our society tend toward increasing levels of
> egocentricity and self indulgence.  Didn' similar things happen in the times
> leading up to the collapse of previous empires?
>
> Joe
>
> D. Mindock wrote:
>
> snip
>
>  A truly civilized country wouldn't need a Bill of Rights. But our
> Decider is
> trashing it anyway, along with the original document. The war on
> terrorism has rapidly devolved into a war onto
> the very things that are essential to a civilized country. I think we
> are back at the level of barbarism...
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