No argument, Joe, so how does technical freedom enhance medical freedom?  
Technical freedom could easily mean the freedom to create genetically modified 
seed, food, people.  But then, same could be said for medical freedom.  Perhaps 
the whole business of "freedom" is a ruse.  Thanks, D, for leading us into this 
quagmire of despair and unrelenting bullshit...:P 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Street 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time


  Yes this is effectively what is happening, but on the other hand the techie 
types that turn the wheels in the high tech arena are also people with a 
personal life and there are plenty of them that don't just twiddle their thumbs 
at home.  This is why there is such a plethora of do it yerself information on 
the web.  We have been reading lately about plans to restrict, control, and 
censor the flow of information on the web and obviously it is to serve the 
denial of privelige you refer to but I believe it is impossible now.  The net 
has already taken on a life of it's own so it will morph as necessary to adapt 
to the situation and preserve the freedom it needs.

  Joe

  M&K DuPree wrote:

    That's all well and good, Dawie, but, imo, your broadening the focus of the 
post averts attention from the point of the post that our medical freedom is 
under intense fire thereby harming the post by changing the subject.  I know 
this isn't your intent, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good 
intentions.  How does technological freedom enhance our medical freedom?  Help 
us out here and show us how technological freedom enhances medical freedom.  
Thanks.  Mike DuPree
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dawie Coetzee 
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      Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:21 AM
      Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A quote for our time from another time


      I would broaden that to technological freedom. With apologies: Unless we 
put technological freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when 
manufacture will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art 
of making to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: ... Isn't 
that exactly what has happened?   -D


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      Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come 
when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art 
of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: The 
Constitution of this Republic should make a special privilege for medical 
freedom as well as religious freedom. 

      - Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence



      I think what we have here in the USA is deadly medicine for all thanks to 
the FDA, the AMA, and
      Big Pharma along with a very cooperative Congress. Medicine here seems to 
be for population
      culling, profiteering, and control.   D. Mindock



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