I'm surprised and disappointed at this.  It's totally false and 
misleading.  The US has NEVER lost AK-47's in Iraq.
We lose much better weapons.  AK-47's are junk compared to the hardware 
WE'VE lost track off.

If you're going to just fling around anti-Americanism, PLEASE get the 
facts straight.

Jeez,

-'Merika


Keith Addison wrote:

>Hello Lee
>
>  
>
>>It now becomes clear, Bush was right on the money. There are weapons 
>>of mass destruction and they are still being developed and deployed.
>>    
>>
>
>US nuclear weapons being the main example, and I guess the 190,000 
>guns the US lost in Iraq would also qualify, in sheer number if not 
>in scale, especially when it emerges that the holy US military shoots 
>250,000 bullets for every alleged insurgent they kill.
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2146645,00.html
>Oh well. At least losing all those AK-47s builds a market
>Saturday August 11, 2007
>The Guardian
>
>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article314944.ece
>US forced to import bullets from Israel as troops use 250,000 for 
>every rebel killed - Independent Online Edition > Americas
>26 July 2007
>
>But I get your meaning. It's just that if you're looking for WMDs and 
>people who're ready to use them it's long been the case that 
>Washington's the first place to look. In fact that applies to your 
>meaning for the term here too, the world capital of dangerous and 
>rash behaviour is Washington.
>
>  
>
>>The developing countries are following the path of the developed  world
>>    
>>
>
>I don't think so. Some of them are, but even then it's only in part. 
>India is an industrialised nation but it's also an agrarian society, 
>and a traditional one, with its own values that don't necessarily 
>just collapse into those of California wannabes as soon as they see 
>some Golden Arches and a bottle of Coke. Just as often there's active 
>resistance.
>
>To say that their most powerful members, India, China, Brazil and 
>South Africa, are following the path of the developed world would be 
>a gross simplification.
>
>And "developed" is a very questionable definition, almost Orwellian. 
>Blind addiction to self-destructive and generally destructive 
>behaviour is not exactly developed. Better to call them the 
>industrialised nations.
>
>Anyway the world isn't really made up of nations, that's just a state 
>of mind, a "sour ferment of the new wine of democracy in the old 
>bottles of tribalism". Useful for rulers.
>
>  
>
>>and mass producing greenhouse gasses and other pollutants with 
>>technology we all know we should no longer be using. As their 
>>ability  to afford more and consume increases, their medical systems 
>>improve  their population will boom, compounding the effect.
>>    
>>
>
>On the contrary, the evidence shows that as people's economic 
>situation improves, as soon as they're not too poverty-stricken to 
>feed their children, their breeding rate slows right down.
>
>The surefire way to do that is to empower the women, and especially 
>to educate the women.
>
>But the usual "wealth creation" method of improving people's economic 
>situation generally just extracts wealth, removes it and concentrates 
>it in the hands of the few, leaving more poverty in its wake. There 
>are better ways.
>
>  
>
>>Have we as a species, reached or exceeded the sustainable population 
>>for our planet?
>>    
>>
>
>It depends how big your feet are. I said this here the other day:
>
>  
>
>>... There is NO shortage of food, and there is NO shortage of money, 
>>in fact there's more of both, PER CAPITA, than there's ever been 
>>before. Nor is the human eco-footprint outsized, except for some of 
>>it, which - surprise! - you'll find in exactly the same places where 
>>you'll find all the money, all the food, and all the silly ideas too 
>>that we're a cancer on the face of the planet and a few billion of 
>>us are just going to have to die, pity, but at least it's not us 
>>because we're not poor and starving.
>>    
>>
>
>I lifted that from here:
>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57949.html
>Re: [Biofuel] Overpopulation Off Limits?
>
>Overpopulation is a myth, quite an obnoxious one actually.
>
>  
>
>>We see the depletion of natural resources, in our lifetime, like no  other.
>>    
>>
>
>Is that because of human overpopulation, or because some nations are 
>addicted to over-consumption and waste, extracting, consuming and 
>wasting a vastly disproportionate and inequitable "share" of the 
>world's resources?
>
>With 5% of the population consuming 25% of the world's energy supply 
>and emitting a third of the greenhouse gases, the US is way out in 
>front when it comes to over-consumption and waste, especially of 
>other people's resources. But all the industrialised nations are 
>included in that, and you also have to include the elites in the 
>other countries, even when that country's overall footprint is small 
>- and you have to exclude the very large and rapidly growing number 
>of poor people in the US, for instance.
>
>So it emerges that the depletion of natural resources and the various 
>other impending disasters which are obviously unsustainable are due 
>to a particular sector of the human community, which is not even 
>close to a majority. How can over-population be the problem then?
>
>When you examine this culprit sector more closely, what you find 
>isn't a human community, it's mainly the corporate sector, with its 
>dependent political and government sectors, armed with a 
>consent-manufacturing industry of unprecedented power and penetration 
>that keeps the subject societies - the "consumers" - not only subdued 
>but completely mesmerised, lost in a Disneyesque world of rootless 
>fantasies and instant gratification.
>
>So why not ask rather whether we've reached or exceeded the 
>sustainable limit for our planet of neo-liberal economics and the 
>ever-increasing levels of extraction, consumption, waste and 
>impoverishment that it entails?
>
>But you already know the answer to that question. So why pick on humans then?
>
>  
>
>>We see politicians promoting profit by population growth like  there 
>>are no limits. We are biological, living on this space bound 
>>bubble, limited in resources, limits disregarded by financial 
>>models,  by which politicians and corporations live.
>>
>>Time to get your heads out of the sand.
>>    
>>
>
>Out of the "hologram" - it won't be easy!
>
>http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/58437/
>A Feast of Bullshit and Spectacle: The Great American Media Mind Warp
>By Joe Bageant, AlterNet
>Posted on August 9, 2007
>
>  
>
>>Decisions made now, in our  lifetime will determine the future for 
>>our children (and perhaps  ourselves if change is rapid).  Commerce 
>>is just as finite as our  natural resources. We should be looking at 
>>a sustainable market, we  should make long life products, durable, 
>>repairable and upgradeable/ extensible.
>>    
>>
>
>Indeed so.
>
>  
>
>>We consumers should expect and demand these criteria, too  much is 
>>disposable in just a few years.
>>    
>>
>
>I don't believe you're going to solve many if any problems by 
>whatever consumers might expect and demand, consumerism is part of 
>the problem, not of the solution.
>
>  
>
>>We do not want to follow the example of bacteria/moulds/yeasts/ 
>>rodents, boom and bust.
>>    
>>
>
>Huh? Those are all highly successful life forms.
>
>  
>
>>The devastation of millions of dead/dying  people fighting each 
>>other for the few remaining resources.
>>    
>>
>
>Dieoff eh? Please see:
>
>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg70734.html
>Re: [Biofuel] Proper intgration of Biofuels for small farms
>
>Best
>
>Keith
>
>  
>
>>Lee
>>    
>>
>
>
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