> If you say so. :-)

ROFL :-)

> I don't think there's any need for me to spell out the difference 
>between a genuine request for evidence and mere deliberate and 
>cynical (criminal?) delaying tactics.

And how does one know which is which?  There are occasions when it's more
justifiable to jump to the conclusion without any actual proof, but it's
certainly not always appropriate.  A company that has a history of going out
and destroying with no regard for anything but profit, sure, but ExxonMobil
is hardly the only company that asked for proof and for a long time there
was huge debate about whether there really was sufficient evidence. Besides
which, one example is hardly justification for throwing out the notion of
wanting proof.

> I'll stick with the precautionary principle, you ride off into the 
>sunset in your Ford Pinto.

I've never had a Ford of any sort.

> You STILL didn't check the list archives, did you?

If the other links you've considered to be good are anything to go by, why
should I expect to find anything useful there?  Besides which, that's merely
continuing to avoid answering what I actually originally wrote.

The original article made sweeping accusations without providing any
arguments to support its conclusions.  It had only one reference that was in
any way linked to the headline and that contained info that not only was
just as vague and of seemingly questionable origin, but didn't match up with
the article's own statements.  I've already said why I don't consider
anything in the article to be an argument, so I won't bother to go into it.
There may be evidence out there, but the article itself made no reference to
any, it merely presented a lot of sleight of hand, which was my original
complaint about it (though that's a different way of expressing it).

And before you try to bring this up, no, I don't expect an article like that
to have every possible link to every possible piece of information that is
pertinent to the content of the article.  But, as I said before, I do expect
it to make an argument and support it.

Cheers
Craig

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Keith Addison
Sent: 22 May 2008 08:10 PM
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Depleted Uranium Shells Used by U.S. Military Worse
Than Nuclear Weapons

Hello Craig

If you say so. :-)

<snip>

>ExxonMobil has every right to ask for the proof.  If not, where does one
>draw the line?  If you were running a business and I told you you had to
>spend a whole lot of money to change the way you do business based on a
>claim I had about damage you were causing, are you telling me you'd just
>make the expensive changes, possibly lose revenue, etc., simply on my say
>so?  I know I wouldn't, I'd want the claim verified.  There do at least
>appear to be fewer naysayers in the scientific community about global
>warming these days and while there are still those who're claiming it's not
>real, or at least that we're not causing it, are finding it harder and
>harder to support their stance.

I don't think there's any need for me to spell out the difference 
between a genuine request for evidence and mere deliberate and 
cynical (criminal?) delaying tactics.

I'll stick with the precautionary principle, you ride off into the 
sunset in your Ford Pinto.

>By the way, in case it's not clear, I'm enjoying this.  I know that I have
a
>tendency to get carried away and commit exactly the crimes I'm accusing
>others of doing.  Having it pointed out to me is most welcome.

Of course you're welcome to enjoy it, but I'm afraid you'll have to 
do so all by yourself. "Most people simply don't have that kind of 
time on their hands," and that includes me.

You STILL didn't check the list archives, did you?

Best

Keith




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