-It is illegal to distill ethanol in the United States w/o a permit.
The regulations and permit application make it quite clear that the only
fuel grade ethanol that does NOT have to be denatured is that which will be
used in vehicles within the confines of the approved permitee's property.

-Ethanol that is NOT denatured is considered beverage grade ethanol; a
different topic.

                              Tom

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You do not need to denature unless you sell the ethanol. This has nothing to
do with the permit process.

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On Mar 30, 2011, at 13:16, Dave Hajoglou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Tom Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>     In order to get a permit to distill fuel grade ethanol in the United
>> States it must be denatured. The recommended method is to add 2 gallons
of
>> unleaded gasoline to 98 gallons of ethanol. The problem for the home
brewer
>> is that water in the ethanol tends to fall out when gasoline is added. A
>> solution to water in the tank is to add "dry gas" (methanol).
>>     My questions are:
>>         -Would it be unwise to denature fuel grade ethanol with methanol
>> and then used in a Flex Fuel vehicle such as a '99 Ford Ranger? (3.0L
Flex
>> Fuel version). The water issue would be eliminated.
>>         -Any problems running a Flex Fuel vehicle on blends of ethanol,
>> gasoline, and methanol?
>> 
> I'd skip the "recommended method" and go with a drop of gas to your
> 100 gal of ethanol.  So long as you don't drink it, serve it to your
> friends, or boast that you can produce some fine moonshine you should
> be ok.  (should).  I have no ideas about the methanol mix.
> 
> -hojo
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