Apologies if I'm out of line. Would it be better if, when one wants to change one topic to an entirely different topic Ex Thread on Fuel Grade Ethanol to an entirely different topic, Ex Biodiesel from Algae, they would change the title in the subject?
Yesterday I searched the list archives www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org Once again I found them to be more valuable than "google-land". The only problem encountered was when I followed a "lead", only to find that the content did not match the subject (Heading). Tom -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher Morris Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:47 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fuel grade ethanol Hey Keith, I'm sorry, but I can't buy into this. Even on a small scale algae will out produce anything out there. Even if it's harder to do at the beginning; it can actually solve this problem. I can't see any good reason to go for another crop that really doesn't have a chance to do it. I mean with palm oil, you'd need close to 2 million acres just to fill the order you had a few weeks ago, and that's only a portion of a portion of a portion of what we need. Right now, (if I can get the permits, which I might have to move to another county, we'll see.) My scale will be just under the small scale limits leading into commercial production. Of course this will be dependent on gaining the proficiency of growing algae. When I get the experience under my belt, I'm hoping for a strand that will produce 40% oil. It will easily outstrip any crop out there. And they're not extremely expensive $30-70 for the culture. The difficulty is really in getting to optimum growth rate. The rest of the business is the technicals of making the oil. So please don't try to kill algae; it is probably one of the only crops that will be able to fill the demand we need. I think it's a lot easier to grow when you understand the properties of it. The opportunity that it presents makes it less a dream and a little closer to reality of us being independent. I appreciate the links, was just looking for anyone out there that have found some things along the way. And I'm not discounting the manual at all; just always learning. On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Keith Addison wrote: > Hello Christopher > >> Does anyone have any tips about the production of b100 using ethanol >> from wvo and/or algae? > > I already told you this: > > "There's no such thing as biodiesel from algae apart from a few lab > samples. When it does eventually emerge it will almost certainly be > on the industrial scale, most likely using patented bio-engineered > strains of algae. Not for backyarders." > >> I believe ethanol will be the best bet for me b/c of cost and danger/ >> regulations, even though it's >> harder to work with. > > http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html#ethylester > Ethyl esters -- making ethanol biodiesel > > This is the first thing it says: > > "1. Get plenty of experience making biodiesel with methanol before > you try it with ethanol." > > You're starting in the wrong place. Start here: > > "Where do I start?" > <http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start> > > Follow the instructions, step by step. Forget anything else you've > read. Study everything on that page and the next page and at the > links in the text. It tells you everything you need to know. > > It's not just us who say so, it's largely the result of a > collaborative effort over 10 years involving thousands of people > worldwide, it's what works. > > Keith Addison > > >> All the tips will be much much appreciated, >> especially for the times I don't >> have pitfalls! > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/