Hi Dawie

>... the nature of walkability is not yet adequately understood...

I'd appreciate it if you'd expound a bit on the nature of 
walkability, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one.

Previous refs here:

Re: [Biofuel] The Green Revolution Backfires: Sweden's Lesson for 
Real Sustainability
Dawie Coetzee
Sun, 12 Jun 2011
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg76045.html

Re: [Biofuel] NEWS - Clean transportation alternative
2011/04/20
Dawie Coetzee
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg75873.html

Re: [Biofuel] NEWS - Clean transportation alternative
2011/04/22
Dawie Coetzee
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg75885.html

Also this:

[biofuel] The Green Bandwagon
2004/08/11
Keith Addison
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg37245.html

All best

Keith


>I also wonder what exactly is meant by "emissions increasing", and how it was
>measured.
>
>However, being no great fan of EVs and having a positive abhorrence of robotic
>and abstruse hybrids, I am more concerned that statistics that do not surprise
>me in the least are indeed genuine. I should, for instance, like to have some
>supporting statistics on Swedish roads development, on Swedish vehicle-buying
>patterns, on Swedish vehicle use patterns. For I am convinced that 
>the tendency
>to opaqueness and passivity in automotive technology is a primary factor that
>drives vehicle-dependence.
>
>Perhaps not immediately related, but I have feared a "suburban 
>backlash" in the
>urban design profession for some time. The primary motivation would be a
>dialectical sense of fashion, i.e. "everyone has been advocating 
>walkable cities
>forever; let's be really radical and propose Los Angeles c. 1958" - and there
>the idea that electric vehicles make everything OK might be an 
>enabling factor.
>That would be a tragedy, as the nature of walkability is not yet adequately
>understood; but it sits all too well with the aesthetic approach to 
>urban design
>according to which the unwalkable city is undesirable not from any 
>consideration
>of practical ecology but because it is quintessentially American and, as
>everyone knows, Americans have atrocious taste ...
>
>Best regards
>
>Dawie Coetzee
>
>________________________________
>From: Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 15:20:42
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Green Revolution Backfires: Sweden's 
>Lesson for Real
>Sustainability
>
>Something is rotten in the state of Sweden.  Or not.  But I do smell a
>dead rat in here somewhere.
>
>We have studies from the U.S. that switching from petro-fuel to
>electricity for transportation reduces emissions, including greenhouse
>gases, even when the electricity comes entirely from coal-fired plants.
>
>However, in Sweden, the primary energy sources are hydro and nuclear
>(over 90% of the generation from those two sources).  Fossil sources
>produce considerably less than 10% of the electricity mix.  (This
>document is a bit dated, but presents the information nicely in a graph
>on page 2.
>http://ec.europa.eu/energy/energy_policy/doc/factsheets/mix/mix_se_en.pdf)
>
>So, Sweden is switching from conventional gasoline and diesel vehicles
>to electric and plug-in hybrids, charging from a grid that is over 90%
>supplied from essentially zero-GHG sources, but the emissions are going
>up?  And, the actual market penetration is still trivially small - I'm
>guessing well below 1% of the total road-going fleet in the country.
>Doesn't pass the smell test.  Unfortunately, the article doesn't bother
>to cite the evidence used to support it's conclusion.  My suspicion:
>the Swedish 'transportation sector' includes something other than
>private cars that might be driving the numbers up (e.g., ships burning
>bunker C crude).
>
>Actually, after a very limited Web search, I could not find anything
>credible that looked like the 'evidence' for the article - just lots of
>copy-cat items that also did not provide citations for the desired data.
>
>I did find this, dated January 2011:
>http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/figures/change-in-total-ghg-emissions,
>which shows Sweden's transportation GHG emissions going up 9% from 1990
>to 2008.  The catch is that Sweden did not get serious about EV
>incentives until about 2008-2009, a time period not covered by the data
>for this report.
>
>Here's someone else's response (found while searching for the 'evidence').
>
>http://dagblog.com/link/what-if-green-products-make-us-pollute-more-10581 
>(check
>
>the comments by "quinn")
>
>Darryl
>
>On 11/06/2011 1:10 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
>>  http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/06/10-3
>>
>>  Published on Friday, June 10, 2011 by CommonDreams.org
>>
>>  The Green Revolution Backfires: Sweden's Lesson for Real Sustainability
>>
>>  by Firmin DeBrabander
>>
>>  What if electric cars made pollution worse, not better? What if they
>>  increased greenhouse gas emissions instead of decreasing them?
>>  Preposterous you say? Well, consider what's happened in Sweden.
>>
>>  Through generous subsidies, Sweden aggressively pushed its citizens
>>  to trade in their cars for energy efficient replacements (hybrids,
>>  clean diesel vehicles, cars that run on ethanol). Sweden has been so
>>  successful in this initiative that it leads the world in per capita
>>  sales of 'green cars.' To everyone's surprise, however, greenhouse
>>  gas emissions from Sweden's transportation sector are up.
>>
>>  Or perhaps we should not be so surprised after all. What do you
>>  expect when you put people in cars they feel good about driving (or
>>  at least less guilty), which are also cheap to buy and run?
>>  Naturally, they drive them more. So much more, in fact, that they
>>  obliterate energy gains made by increased fuel efficiency.
>>
>>  We need to pay attention to this as GM and Nissan roll out their new
>>  green cars to great fanfare. The Chevy Volt, a hybrid with a
>>  lithium-ion battery, can go 35 miles on electric power alone (after
>>  charging over night, for example), and GM brags on its website that
>>  if you limit your daily driving to that distance, you can "commute
>>  gas-free for an average of $1.50 a day." The Volt's price is listed
>>  at a very reasonable $33K (if you qualify for the maximum $7500 in
>>  tax credits). The fully electric Nissan Leaf is advertized for an
>>  even more reasonable $26K (with qualifying tax credits, naturally).
>>  What a deal-and it's good for you, too, the carmakers want you to
>>  know. As GM helpfully points out on its website, "Electricity is a
>>  cleaner source of power."
>>
>>  Sweden is a model of sustainability innovation, while the US is the
>>  most voracious consumer on the planet. Based on Sweden's experience
>>  with green cars, it's daunting to imagine their possible impact here.
>>  Who can doubt that they'll likely inspire Americans to make longer
>>  commutes to work, live even further out in the exurbs, bringing
>>  development, blacktop and increased emissions with them?
>  >
>>  In its current state, the green revolution is largely devoted to the
>>  effort to provide consumers with the products they have always loved,
>>  but now in affordable energy efficient versions. The thinking seems
>>  to be that through this gradual exchange, we can reduce our
>>  collective carbon footprint. Clearly, however, this approach is
>>  doomed if we don't reform our absurd consumption habits, which are so
>>  out-of-whack that they risk undoing any environmental gains we might
>>  make. Indeed, we are such ardent, addicted consumers that we take
>>  efficiency gains as license to consume even more!
>>
>>  We need to address consumption fast because-news alert-the current
>>  consumer class on earth barely amounts to 1 billion people (if that),
>>  but 2 billion and counting eagerly wait in the wings.
>>
>>  American industry hungrily targets the rising Chinese consumer class.
>>  For the sake of the planet, we better hope it doesn't get its way.
>>  Consider: China currently has a car ownership rate approximately
>>  one-sixth that of the US. If China achieves car ownership rates
>>  comparable to the US, that would put an additional 800 million cars
>  > on the road. And that's just China. Even if we somehow succeeded in
>>  making China's fleet super efficient, it would still be more than the
>>  planet can handle.
>>
>>  Of course, cars are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to
>>  Chinese consumer dreams. They will also want more electronics,
>  > clothes, meat, processed foods-bigger houses. In short, we can bet
>>  that the rising Chinese middle class will want something close to
>>  what we have. And why shouldn't they? We have been showcasing our
>>  middle class comfort worldwide for years through our vast media
>>  exports. Everyone is betting, hoping-assuming?-that technology will
>>  eventually help us deliver the American dream worldwide with no
>>  environmental impact. But clearly, we may run out of planet by the
>>  time that day comes. Even the American dream in an 'energy efficient
>>  format' is likely too much for the earth to handle.
>>
>>  If this is chilling-and it should be-you might wonder, what are our
>>  options? Justice demands that we cannot prevent, much less discourage
>>  the growing global consumer class from having the consumer goods we
>>  currently enjoy. Real change starts with us then, and I'm afraid to
>>  say, radical change is in order. We must figure out a way to consume
>>  less, which means driving less, shopping less, eating less meat
>>  (which the UN estimates is responsible for a fifth of all greenhouse
>>  gases), and conserving food and energy. This means essentially
>>  rethinking our suburban-sprawling, fast-food-gorging, shopaholic
>>  society. We must model for the world the changes we hope everyone
>>  will make to ensure a sustainable future.
>>
>>  It's time to be courageous and think big about altering our
>>  lifestyle, values and future. The powers that be are reluctant to
>>  rock the boat with consumers, and have decided that leaving
>>  consumption habits intact as much as possible is the preferable
>>  option. They'd rather get us into electric cars, rather than out of
>>  our cars altogether. Well, we need more than half measures at this
>>  point. As Sweden proves, unless other more fundamental changes are
>>  made to our engrained consumption habits, half measures only dig us
>>  deeper in the hole.
>>
>>  Firmin DeBrabander is Chair of Humanistic Studies and Associate
>>  Professor of Philosophy at the Maryland Institute College of Art.
>>
>
>
>--
>Darryl McMahon
>Project Manager,
>Common Assessment and Referral for Enhanced Support Services (CARESS)
>


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